Question: Do you have any scoop on the season of premiere of Castle? —Ivy
Ausiello: Well, Castle and Beckett obviously know they hooked up, and we know they hooked up, but what about everyone else? “It’ll be fun to see who finds out about them being together — who stays out of the loop and for how long and how they decide to reveal all of that,” Stana Katic shared with us at the Critics’ Choice Awards, where she was a presenter. “That’s a big bombshell.” But speaking of bombshells, Katic feels that the unsolved murder of Beckett’s mother could hang a cloud over Kate and Rick’s otherwise happy coupling. “One of the things that I, as viewer, am curious about is … her mother’s murder. Even though the two of them have gotten together, that still looms over them.”
Question: Since it seems there won’t be much in the way of Castle spoilers coming out of Comic-Con this year, do you have anything you can share that will help us through the hiatus? —Rachel
Ausiello: The new season will pick up pretty much where last season left off.
Source: TVLine
So, no Comic-con this year, unlikely to be submitted for an Emmy consideration, poor scheduling last season (ie: huge gaps between new episodes throughout Season 4)and limited reaction to winning a People's Choice award.
ReplyDeletewhy does it feel like ABC really doesn't care about Castle?
Anon@8:09, I don't know but I would hazard a guess that the show is getting close to the five year limit.
DeleteThe truth is, whether it's the result of increased productions costs or simply the fact that reality shows are cheaper to produce, most scripted shows since 2000 don't usually last more than 5 seasons. While there are exceptions; shows that last longer are rare and usually have won an Emmy or air on CBS.
*sigh* again with this emmy debate, people yelling emmy for castle have no clue how things in tv biz works. In an alternative world maybe castle would have a chance along with buffy, and other shows that deserved an emmy but never got one. they are major power play behind the scenes, studios and suits, advertisements play their games, the result is always the same shows that get nominate, the same actors etc.. don't be suprised. also castle never gets the love from serious tv critics, that doesn't help either.
DeleteHey Anon, it's not that ABC doesn't care about Castle. Comic Con did not invite them back, according to Terri. ABC doesn't really have a say in them going or not. Besides, Castle already has a pretty big audience. I think the decision was to help ABC promote some of their newer shows :)
ReplyDeleteHey, everybody!!
DeleteIt's been a long time...
I think you're right:
There's no need to promote a show which has a pretty good audience. They have to promote newer shows.
It's not comic con, it's really ABC who didn't sent them favoring new shows instead.
DeleteBut i have a feeling they sent nathan fillion to monte-carlo festival, and london instead for promo purposes instead of comic con.
Anyway Nathan surely will be at comic con for other reasons than castle. i hope he'll invite the castle cast in the nerd Hq panels.
First off, it's good to be back here...finally some scoop. I can't wait for the season to start. I really hope they do hide it for a bit, they will be so fun to watch, sneaking around.
ReplyDeleteAnon 8.09, as for the Emmy submission, my guess it's because castle isn't really a drama, nor is it a comedy, it's more of a dramady and the Emmy folks don't recognize that category. Unfair but true. So it isn't anything really personal against the show or ABC screwing them over on purpose. From a business stand point, they would probably send it shows that fall in specific categories to increase their chances of winning. And as for comic con, again I think it's a business decision, sending newer shows to garner large audiences. Castle has this well established, comic con or not, the fans are loyal and I'm guessing ABC knows that. However this is all just my guess, but it makes sense to me.
Anon 8.39, I feel castle will be one of those exceptions. Yes it's scripted and most of them don't last more than 5 seasons, but a handful do, and those are the ones with an avid following and raking in really good ratings. Castle has this. It's still the highest rated show on Monday so I think it could on beyond 5 seasons.
Oh and as for limited reaction to people's choice, I think it's because this award is purely based on popularity and not substance or how good the show is creatively, so it isn't a great recognition for the industry. It isn't based on experts analyzing how good the show or characters are, it's just fans voting for their favorite show. And you can vote over and over again, so it's not really exclusive and doesn't give an accurate analysis of the show. But it's still something. And I'm glad they at least got that.
ABC may seem stupid, but I'm certain they aren't, and I think they know what a gem of show they have. They are just trying to build the smaller shows now.
Let's be positive guys and just think about the fact that in 2 weeks or so, filming for season 5 will start. I'm really excited.
Anyway cheers everyone, all the way from Malaysia.
You make some excellent points Anon 10.05 PM.
DeleteI think Castle is a show that will definitely go past the five season mark. For starters Andrew Marlowe has stated in the past that he thinks that there is so much more material he can work with once he has Castle and Beckett together which they are now. He did admit that he stretched out the "will they, won't they" as far as he could without things becoming "artificial" between them (in his eyes at least). I'm excited to see where he takes them from here and I think he is too. I think this show is a rare gem where so many fans feel a deep connection with it. That is a major achievement for a TV Show and ABC would be completely bonkers to slam the brakes on it too soon.
I think they definitely should have some fun with keeping some characters "out of the loop" in regards to Rick and Kate being together finally. It would be so funny if they had Alexis show up the next morning and say something along the lines of: "I see you found something better to do than watch TV last night" (referencing Beckett) to her father. I would guess that the early part of the season will cover the looming threat of Cole Maddox and his still anonymous "employer". Once they get that out of the way (or put to one side for later on if that's the way they're gonna go) it sounds like the really fun stuff will be back. Season 4 didn't completely remove the humour element from the show but it did tone it down a couple of notches while they dealt with the secrets and their aftermaths.
The only thing I would really like to see more is getting Captain Gates more involved. I think they intended to have her take the reigns from Josh as the most hated character on the show, but I think she's great (and a lot of other people probably do too)! It was so amusing how she constantly made Rick feel inferior and then found it awkward when she really did need his help (specifically in Kill Shot and 47 Seconds). Other than that I think that this show is stronger than ever and September can't come soon enough!
One month down, three to go.........
AnonymousJune 19, 2012 10:05 PM, well said rite there. i have faith in castle, that it will last more than 5 seasons and despite it didnt get the emmy award it deserve, it receives much love from a large fan base. as long as the awesome script is maintained, it'll do fine :) and i, being a loyal fan i am, will always support this show. ^^
Deletep/s: i'm from malaysia too! :D
I agree with you guys, actually I don't think it's a big deal that castle isn't going to comic con. And that definitely doesn't mean that the show is going to be cancelled or anything like that. There are loads of shows who don't make comic con and are going strong. I understand they need to promote the new shows, that's fair. I think ABC has been quite good to castle, yes I would love the Emmy possibility, but as anon 10.05 said, there's isn't a category for castle to fall into right now, and that is not abcs fault. But I think they have been supportive. Not sure if you guys noticed but after when castle was officially renewed, abc castles twitter posted a poster of castle and Beckett which said caskett will be returning in sept. for a network to use the shipper name instead of the real name of the show just shows their support for Marlowe's decision to put our leads together. So I thought that was good of abc.
ReplyDeleteI so can't wait for the new season. And yes they will be shooting soon. Yayyyyyyy....
I was so excited when I got off work and saw a new spoiler lol! Even though it didn't say much its nice to get something new regarding the show!
ReplyDeleteI agree that I think ABC could do a better job promoting Castle especially because its #1 on mondays but I also agree with an above commentor that said that ABC probably has little control over who gets Emmy nominations or gets to go to comic con. Altough its weird to me that in fact Castle wont be at Comic Con considering the show has graphic novels that go with it ... But like Terri Millar tweeted she said they have to promote new shows. Concerning no Emmy nominations it stinks but Ive read many places that Castle isn't the type of show to be nominated no matter how amazing and great of a show it is!
Changing subjects I cannot wait for next season! Its probably way to early to put in my requests for the season but here they are anyway lol..1. Dont wait till the end of the season to have Kate say i love you ..pleeeeasssee! 2. No stupid break up stuff. This would be so high schoolesque. Caskett will undoubtly have rough patches, and arguments which is totally fine just no breaking up.
I cannot wait to see who Castle and Kate will tell right away( im guessing it heavily being Martha and Alexis cause I cannot see Castle keeping that from them). It should be fun seeing them keep their relationship from the boys and Lanie . Then to see their reactions whenever they do find out !
Oh and theres an interview with Nathan on castlelounge.live journal. Yah and being the worry wart I am it kinda worried me but I reminded myslef that Nathan believes in the Moonlighting curse so his views on what the season holds may definetly influence what he said (like about the relationship going sour). Plus right after the finale we got interviews with Marlowe saying that everything we saw really happened. He also said that this new level of the Casket relationship "will be tough,but fun tough". Okay I know I just wrote a book with my comments but Ive had alot of time to think lol! Xoxo
-Brittany
Lol I was excited to Brittany! I needed a good spoiler. And we got two:) anyway no need to worry about them breaking up. Andrew marlowe said once they are together, they are together. He will not pull them apart. So again you Can put that fear to rest. There will be fights but it will be all good. Lol I agree. I think lanie, Alexis and math will find out. I think Jim, gates, and the boys will be left out of the loop. I think Kate would try to tell Jim but he finds out before she can tell him. I think Martha would be okay with Kate from the start, a little concerned though cause of the secrets each kept. With Alexis, I don't know how she will act. I want her to be okay with it and approve but I can see her giving Kate the cold shoulder. I would like the premiere to address where they stand. And of course I want Kate and Alexis and Martha to bond. More lanie moments to. And of course lanie, will be squealing and trying to collect her winnings from the bet on caskett, but having to wait, since she will agree to keep their secret. Anyway that's how I see it. Season 5 ftw! I want a promo, comic con or not.
DeleteI totally agree with you...after all the hard work to get together, I will be super annoyed if they break up. Relationships are tough, but not impossible, so I hope they just deal with it.
DeleteHehe I laughed when you talked about Nathan and moonlighting. I know what you mean. I love the guy but man he annoys me every time he opens his mouth for a castle interview. I honestly dislike reading his interviews because he doesn't seem to have faith in his own show. That's disappointing. I think we all know it isnt going to be rainbows and unicorns, but hey I find it hard to believe that after everything, they could break up or things could go sour. They are two very different people and there's going to be conflict, but they are so helplessly in love as well, so I think they will be fine. I constantly want to scream at Nathan and say hey come on man, have some faith in AM, he got you this far right...something no other show got you! Hahaha...
I think the hiding around is going to be very exciting and funny to watch. Pretending they don't care, or trying not to get jealous...oohhh the jealousy factor is just going to increase tenfold now on both sides, if ever someone were to show interest in either of them, since they won't be able to openly admit they are together. I sooooo want will Sorensen to come back and make a play for Beckett again. Castle challenged him season 1 about getting Beckett back. That will be interesting.
Lol agreed anon12:36. The jealousy will be entertaining. And Sorensen can come back and play for Kate's heart. A case of people trafficking babies can brwillful back. I would definitely like to see Rick challenge him again. Like Sorensen asks Kate out. And Kate is like no. And rick adds cause she has plans. With her boyfriend. And Kate eases his distress later, by saying,"Castle I'm with you. Not him. I don't want to be and if he even tries anything, lanie knows, and you know she will do anything to keep us together, including making him disappear." :)
Deleteoh anon 10:32 I just read your commetn and you made great points! I definetly think Castle has major potential after season 5! Plus although it may be nice to see more publictiy for this show its a testament how great it really is' that its still uber popular even without a ton of publicity. - Brittany
ReplyDeleteI think that Castle not going to Comic Con has a sense. The Castle panel usually turns to be a one-man show of Nathan. Because he's really great with live audience. Last year Stana did not even participate (she attended another panel). And Nathan will be there anyway, with the Nerd HQ and his group of friends (also Adam Baldwin takes part). So why should ABC use a spot for Castle when Nathan in any case will be around and automatically promoting his show?
ReplyDeleteAnd most important of all, I think ABC feels Castle does not need any specific promotion. The network is happy with current ratings, Castle has a stable and devoted amount of followers. Winning the PCAs proved just that.
So the not going to CC I think it's a sign that Castle is already well off without putting extra money to promote it.
It will never be Emmy material anyway. That's just a lost cause.
Back to the spoilers: great spoilers!! I love the fact that they pick up the premiere where the finale left (eheheh the morning after). I bet Martha will understand immediately, even if she does not see Kate. Just a look to her "boy" and she will get it. The guys at the precinct and Laney is a different thing, it will happen later and I guess it will be a fun episode when they discover it. I think the whole situation will be extremely funny.
You're completely right about Nathan's one- man show. It turned out like that at Paley fest last year, too. I love him, but I don't like when he takes over the panel, and even more when stupid fans ask him firefly questions. I'll miss Castle at Comic Con, but at least we won't get another firefly fangirling session.
DeleteOk this is a weird thought, but do any of you think that maybe abc doesn't want to send castle to comic con because there's always some fans there who talk about firefly during the castle session. Maybe abc doesn't want to promote that on their cost and time. So Nathan can do it on his own since he will be there anyway, and it won't be during a castle panel. Just wondering.
ReplyDeleteAbc knows that they have their fan base, sending castle there won't make a difference. Besides Stana is rather quiet at these sessions and Nathan is the loud one, and he can basically do that without a whole castle panel. So if he wanted to promote castle, he could.
Another reason could be I think Stana is filming her cbgb movie and won't be there. Last year I know lots were disappointed that she wasn't there. So maybe with those reasons and as someone else said Nathan being there anyway, he can promote castle on his own or not, abc figured it's not important to send them there. Honestly comic con doesn't really promote castle I think because it's filled with people who are already fans...so comic con or not, they will still watch. I agree, this is no big deal that they won't be there.
Hope we get some interviews from Marlowe soon though. That's what I'm really waiting for. Nathan's interviews are always a downer, so I don't bother reading them, but I want something from Marlowe.
Yay! Finally some spoilers. Yes the hiding around will be cute. And I hope really really that Alexis isn't going to be an annoying twit this coming season. I honestly did not like her character last season, I think I only liked her in the last few episodes. I hated the Lanie internship, just not realistic, I hated her over the top drama about not getting into Stanford, and I hated her hostility towards Beckett, which was uncalled for.
ReplyDeleteHopefully we get more spoilers soon.
I think the Alexis drama fit more to real life. i liked it. what daughter isn't gonna freak when her dad (whom she has had to herself for a while) starts dating a woman who constantly gets him into life and death situations :)
DeleteI really hope they don't make a make up break up show and they show us how bad relationships are going when people get together it would look like love is a bad thing.Sometimes I think Mr.Fillion don't like his own show of course he have the right of his own opinion but I don't remember he ever said something positive about Castle.I don't remember AM ever said once they are together he never pull them apart.So I am sorry I don't want to complain before the season started but I am a little bit worried to.
ReplyDeleteI seriously doubt that there will be anything resembling a "break-up" with Caskett. Given how much water had to go under the bridge to get them to a stage where they could dive into a relationship (especially one without too much baggage), I can't see the creators of the show forcing them apart from where they are now. For sure, there will be bumps in the road that test them and their relationship, but nothing that would drive them apart. Andrew Marlowe did indeed say that once Caskett are together he won't pull them apart. I think Andrew Marlowe's savvy enough to know that if he did try and pull Caskett apart now then that could be potentially disastrous for the show, as loyal fans would start feeling cheated having waited four seasons for the two characters to get together only to have to see them being pulled apart just like that. From the vibes I picked up out of Andrew Marlowe's recent interviews (since Season 4 began) he is excited to see where he can take Caskett from here and believes there is so much more story to tell with them as a couple. Given the way the fans feel deeply for these two characters then it is clearly obvious that this show can grow even stronger from where it is now with Caskett together solving cases while juggling their relationship and various other issues that will inevitably crop up.
DeleteI think Mr Fillion's frame of mind (especially last season) was a deliberate marketing ploy. He was saying that they should delay things on purpose, while Stana was saying they should get together already. In essence both of the lead actors seemed to be deliberately taking opposite viewpoints on the subject (Caskett) to keep the fans chomping at the bit for things to happen. When they told us at Paley Fest last year that the Season 4 Finale would be a 12.9 out of ten I think that was a massive understatement! It was more like 20.9 out of ten!
Can't wait for Season 5, three months to go.
I wouldn't worry about caskett breaking up. I think the couple will face many, many obstacles (the killer hunting her, their clashing characters, his daughter) but Marlowe said it will be tough but fun. So I expect their relationship to be the comedy aspect of the show, like Monica and Chandler from friends.
ReplyDeleteMy expectations for season 5 are very high, I think it will be a fun, exciting and adventurous season.
As for Alexis being a brat, I am afraid that's gonna happen. Otherwise it would just be too easy. However I am also expecting, anytime during next season, that Alexis gets her own romantic relationship (it would be realistic, she's gorgeous, college age) so maybe she will be a bit tough in the beginning with her being overprotective of her dad. Later on I see her getting more interested in other things.
"Castle and Beckett obviously know they hooked up..."
ReplyDeleteLOL ... I sure hope so :D
yeah, that sentence was kind of weird... I sure hope they both know what they did too!
DeleteHi my peeps,good to be back among my kindred.I'm glad to read I'm not the only one somewhat disappointed with Nathan's constant disregard for the loyalty of the Castle fandom.Don't get me wrong,I LOVE Nathan because he IS Castle but he is quite dismissive when it comes to Castle.Move on Nathan,Firefly was a decade ago and it didn't afford you the luxury that this show does of a reliable and hefty paycheck so you can pursue your other interests.Castle is my all time favorite show so I will no longer read/see any Nathan interviews.Stana,you are our queen.Thank you for your appreciation.Can't wait for Caskett and yes,I see the irony.
ReplyDeleteCastle is just paycheck for nathan and the occasion to access more international fame that's it.i'm not denying he's the nicest guy in hollywood and hardworker too, but i have a feeling once filming done, he's not the type to watch his own show.
DeleteHe also roots for fallen heroes, he likes that they fail, i'm not suprised that he says nothing is going to be easy with C&B. That is why he always ends up talking about firefly or his soap days when asked question about castle, he's not that much into it and he knows fans will give him hard time for it if he answers them because his vision of the show doesn't collide with AMW. As for stana, castle is her first big show where she's successful, it's normal that she's more attached to it.
Never read nate's interview, better for a castle fan sanity.
Actually, Nathan said, one day, that he was afraid to be the bad guy, the "black cat", because the shows he got involved have not been lasted very long.
Deleteso he should be grateful about "Castle" because it's a very popular show.
I think that Stana was more positive & Nathan more negative just for interviews.
PatHyp
Anon 12:49, I'm so glad to be back too! I've missed posting here :) I feel the same way as all of you above about Nathan. I want to love him so much but it makes me mad that he ignores Castle. I understand that he has a different vision for the show than AWM, but the fans are overwhelmingly in agreement with AWM, and Stana too, for that matter, so Nathan needs to suck it up and stop being a Debbie Downer.
DeleteI hope to see an interview for Castle with Stana soon, because she always has something shippery and cute and insightful to say...about the actual show she is currently on... that wasn't cancelled after one season... and is still going strong- unlike someone else we all know
i hate it how the spolier sites\people(such as examiner,ausillo) always make the spoiler headlines sound bad...i just read the examiner one with fillion and it made it sound like it was gonna be a dark season which according to marlowes hints definetly does NOT seem to be the case. I guess it also has to do with Nathan saying he thinks their relationship will open a pandoras box and be tough going. It freaks me out at first but then my common sense kicks in and says of course there will be tough time like any relationship but it can still be a great (and fun) relationship. Plus almost any interview where nathan talks about the show ends up worrying me lol. My resolution for season 5 is to not freak out at every spoiler because A. The media has a tendency to hype everything up and B. I worried alot last season and their were a lot of tough episodes but in the end it was worth it and even throughout those tough times we still got hints that they truly care for each other. Soo yeah I dont know how well my "resolution" will work lol but all in all I cannot wait to see season 5 and think it has high potetnial to go beyond 5 seasons. This show is going a direction few shows go concerning getting the leads and i think viewers appreciate that. So i aslo think ( and hope !) that marlowe isnt going to break them up . kudos to marlowe and writing staff on talikng a risk and going a diffrent direction! i even think that their can be sexual tension still especially when it seems they will keep it (their relationship) from the precinct. and even when eveyone DOES find out there will still be great chemistry between our fav couple! okay im done talking!
ReplyDelete-brittany
Ok so we're here's again...yay...it's nice to be back with the fandom.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading some comments, my advise, stay away I repeat STAY AWAY from Nathan interviews. He is the Debbie downer of the castle fandom...hahahaha. But it's true, so for your own sake, don't read his interviews. I learnt from the last seasons hiatus that reading his interviews only make you more annoyed with him and feel sick and disgusted. I have nothing against the guy but seriously he is like the grinch at christmas...bearing negativity and bad thoughts. So stay away.
And yes I wish Nathan had some faith in his own show, doesn't say much about him that he doesn't. Oh well, he is entitled to his opinion.
I cannot wait for the season to begin, hoping for more fun and yes also less of the bratty Alexis. Gosh that was awful. Enough of drama queeness with Alexis ok.
This is funny...Nathan, the grinch of christmas. I guess you have a point though. Now I can stop thinking of him as the grinch. Hehe. Yeah he needs to learn to give better interviews, he makes it look too dark. Kind of kills the buzz. Hey another nickname for him...buzz kill.
DeleteHa, Nathan the Christmas grinch and buzz kill. Hhmm true! Nice one.
DeleteIf there's one thing that I agree with Nathan fillion on is that if you have nothing nice to say just shut up. Sometimes I wish he takes his own advise. So I'm not going to say anything bad, only that I have to agree with some comments don't read his interviews, they almost always leave you with a bad aftertaste.
ReplyDeleteI think it's pretty obvious they will have issues to deal with, but I see it being more fun issues that angst filled ones. Aftere all didn't we have enough angst last season. Anyway I trust AM and he has done us good so far, no reason to stop believing now.
^^^good advice with the 2 above commentors. I love his acting on Castle and he can be hilarious....his views on the Castle and Kate however just seem to upset us Caskett fans. Guss hes allowed to his opinion though even if we dont like it.- brittany
ReplyDeleteActually Brittany, he doesn't just upset caskett fans, I'm not really a shipper per se, I think they are perfect for each other but I wouldn't call myself a shipper. However what I dislike about Nathans interviews is his utter lack of confidence in the writing, his lack of respect for the creator and his lack of gratitude for the show and it's fans, and his complete lack of knowledge on the moonlighting curse. That's my problem with the guy. His a good actor, but that's all I will give him. I don't see that great guy some fans talk about. In other words, I love Rick castle, not Nathan fillion.
DeleteI think the lack of gratitude is the main thing for me. A friend of mine calls him an ungrateful hound...a bit much i know. We argue about that. But i agree with the ungrateful part a little. Just a little but its a feeling i cant shake. I used to love firefly but its the past and ive moved on. Guess he hasnt, which is sad given that firefly never gave him the kind of acknowledgement, fame or accolades that castle has given him. Show some gratitude man. That aside, I love the show and his character and am looking forward to fun.
DeleteIt's nice to have some scoop. Thanks Stana. So excited for next season
ReplyDeleteHeard castle isn't going to comic con. I suppose it makes sence to send other shows. Give others a chance. In any case, Fillion loves the attention and I'm sure he will be there. Hopefully he is kind enough to maybe promote his current show and not his old one. Sarcasm much! Sorry, couldn't help myself. Don't think Stana will be there, she is generally a quiet and private person and I think she is filming a movie. Oh and just to be clear I'm a brown coat so I'm not dissing firefly fans here, just dissing fillion a little. He needs to show an ounce of appreciation to the writers and creators of the show that got him where he is. Just my personal opinion.
Note to fillion, we know things are going to tough, what relationships isn't, but it would be nice to see the glass half full instead of half empty. The man is all about the glass being half empty isn't he. Wake up fillion.
As for Alexis and her annoying traits last season, hope that's tossed out. She went from a character I thoroughly loved to being a pain. Make her nice again please Andrew!!!
Ok,so I'm anon 12:49...disappointed with Nathan "kill-buzz" Fillion who against her better judgment went to castlelounge and read his interview.Once again,not a positive take on the show as expected.That being said,I don't want to dwell on his negativity. He is an awesome actor who embodies our favorite writer(I wish he would act like he enjoys the show a little more). I can absolutely separate character from actor so that it doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the show...I LOVE Castle and will continue to do so. AWM, do not disappoint...no pressure. Mino ;)
DeleteNathan "kill buzz" Fillion...cute, and so very true. For your own sanity, keep away from his interviews.
DeleteHe sure does love the attention. I bet he will mention Castle! But maybe like for a minute or so only. Or it's because someone asked him about it.
DeleteAlso don't read molly quinn's twitter, her views of her character and of her on screen dad are not better either. apparently castle is still a playboy even though we know that he's in love with beckett for 2 years now, and some other "lovely" thoughts that i forgot.
DeleteWell Molly has always been reluctant about them getting together. She proved that at comic con last year and again at paley. She got some heat from fans about her paley behaviour, you know the usual butting in and not knowing when to shut it, hahaha. I find her comments a tad bit over the top, so i often ignore her in these events. Besides the kid seems to always want to be of the same opinion of nathan and hangs on his every word, she probably has a crush or something. Anyway not our concern, so just dont bother with her comments. I just tell myself shes a kid so just ignore her and try not to judge her too much. I dont follow Molly on twitter so i dont know what youre talking about. However it is completely silly to say alexis doesnt know castles in love with beckett. For a supposed smart character, cant she see the changes in her dad? And didnt she ask him in Rise if Becekett makes him happy to which he replied yes? So Alexis has to have some idea, because if she doesnt, then alexis is one incredably dense girl. This is Mollys opinion, not alexis. Dont know what mollys issue is with caskett and i dont care either. I just want alexis to be sweet and loving again, not the incredibly annoying one we got last season.
DeleteYeah agreed about the Molly thing. She is young and has embarrassed herself quite a bit with comic on and paley, but it doesn't bother me. As I said she is a young girl, so her opinions are still a irrational and childlike at times. On that note though, I sincerely hope Andrew Marlowe doesn't make Alexis continue with the brattiness she portrayed. Hope she gets a new boyfriend and starts acting like a real college kid instead of the smarty pants she portrays sometimes. A character can be very smart and excellent in school and still be very very nice. For example rory Gilmore from gilmore girls. I loved rory, smart and intelligent yet doesn't try to control her mother or act smarter than her mother. And I liked that rory was still very much a teenager with a boyfriend and screwing up at times too. Unlike Alexis who is portrayed like some perfect child. Not realistic.
Deletetrue molly is young, doesn't know how to censor herself sometimes on twitter, it seems she definitely follows nathan's lead story wise. Last year in comic con, she insisted alexis wouldn't be ok with her dad working alongside beckett because how dangerous it is, yet this season alexis joined lanie in the morgue, and in crime scenes, wasn't worried that much about her dad. so yeah molly has no clue about her character.
DeleteWhile these spoilers aren't really spoilers, merely Stana's thoughts on the matter and something that has already been confirmed about the premiere, we went ahead and posted them anyway. However, we refrained from posting the interviews Nathan gave recently because it was all speculation on his part as to where he thinks the relationship between Castle and Beckett will go. None of that has been confirmed by Andrew Marlowe or any of the writers, so we didn't see the need to get everyone riled up over Nathan's opinion. As of right now it is just that, his opinion, just as the first answer is simply Stana's thoughts on the subject, so take it all with a big grain of salt.
ReplyDeleteGet what you mean stephanie. Yeah Nathans interviews tend to be on the negative side hence irritating and upseting fans. Good thiking in not posting them. Besides nathan opinions have always been the same in that respect. So its nothing to be excited about seeing an interview from him. I agree with a commentor above. He truly is the Debbie Downer of our fandom. I do hope you guys get some interviews from Marlowe. Or even Stana. These two give well balanced interviews, the good and the bad. Just what we need.
DeleteStephanie, I appreciate you trying to diffuse the situation and putting our fandom minds at ease. We are a passionate bunch.However, my remarks do not stem from your postings. On my free time( which is rare) I read ALL things Castle,from Fillion to Quinn. He has seldom shone a bright light on this show. He will go out of his way to compliment his other accomplishments and steer away from Castle...it's a shame because we tend to fawn over all of them but especially the leads. Like I said before, I love Rick Castle, respect Nathan's acting prowess. Mino.
DeleteAs much as I love Stana interviews, I want to hear from the man himself...Andrew Marlowe. Please more scoop soon.
ReplyDeleteThnkas for this. Finally. Glad things start from where they left off. What i hope for this season is that the fun is back. No more angst please. Of course things wont be easy for Caskett but it will be fun wathing them manage around that.
ReplyDeleteAnd I hope Alexis is out of the precint and her dumb internship. Dumbest plotline ever. Besides she is going off to college, she cant still have internships. And make that child lovable. I hated her last season.
And please no more stupid two parters about saving the world. A writer and a detective cannot do those things fpr goodness sake marlowe.
So thats it, just my opinions. Oh and yeah Nathan, show castle some love at comic con. Not too much to ask right. Pretend you actuslly appreciate what you have instead of dwelling on the past. Was that too harsh??? Oh well.
Hey everyone, im soooo excited. Cant wait for sept.
ReplyDeleteBet you a dollar Nathan doesnt mention castle at all at Comic con.
And I bet you a dollar he only mentions firefly.
DeleteI really loved Firefly, and I love Castle. So I don't mind if Nathan talks about Firefly, even if it's over and buried.
ReplyDeleteBut I mind if he does not spend at least equal time and enthusiasm to talk about his current show. Especially because I don't get it: one show is over and never will be back. What is the point in promoting it?
On the contrary Castle is in full swing. And many of his fans are Castle fans, and never watched Firefly before.
I think Molly Queen's dislike for Caskett and this turn of the story line is because she is afraid to become a less important character. If Beckett and Castle are together, the scenes with Nathan, Susan and Molly at Castle's apartment will tend to disappear. So Stana (Beckett) will take space even in the domestic scenes. Just professional jealousy in my opinion. Silly because with her comments she shows she did not understand the characters (even hers!) and the evolution that has taken place since season one.
In any case I somehow see a bit of professional rivalry between her and the female star (from her side, Stana is always very neutral).
Just my 2 cents.
I too was a fan of firefly, but I prefer castle. It's completely different and more to my taste. It's nice that Nathan still talks about firefly but what gets to me is that he doesn't talk about castle which is his current show. He can give firefly a nod anytime he wants but don't forget what's paying you now. I don't think fans have an issue with him promoting firefly, I think fans have an issue with him promoting firefly and ignoring castle. I'm one of those fans. I'll be the first to admit, I started watching castle because of Nathan, but it stopped being about Nathan by the end of the first season. I love the show and appreciate it, wish Nathan did as well. And to be very honest, my love for Fillion has dropped over the past two years, simply because I feel he is not very grateful or appreciative of the creators, writers of the show. For someone who had more than one failed tv show, he sure seems to be high nosed now.
DeleteI know people who worked with him say he is this amazing guy, maybe it's true. But for someone like me who will never meet him, I go by his actions and what little we see of him in interviews, and those little snippets don't give me the impression that he is this amazing guy. So my judgements are different. To me actions speak louder than words.
As for Molly, always found her a little odd, but rivalry? What on earth for. How can a teenage girl be jealous of a mid thirties woman. They are in completely different phases of their life. I get Molly being jealous of some other teen actress. Yes, Stana is neutral, one of the reasons I like her interviews, she doesn't put down any character, she speaks well of her own character with good analysis and as well the other characters.
I've been reading the comments on here very carefully and from what I've picked up some of them are bordering on becoming Tall-Poppy driven (those that are critical of Nathan Fillion and Molly Quinn). You guys are all welcome to your opinion as much as anyone else but I don't like the vibe I'm picking up from a lot of it. For example, Nathan seems to be copping quite a bit of flack for apparently never (or hardly ever) talking about the show Castle in a positive light (and for regularly mentioning his old show Firefly). In a lot of his interviews the people hosting them don't always ask him about his current show so of course he's not going to mention it regularly. I don't know the guy and have never met him in person (and most likely never will) so then as far as I'm concerned I can't be in a position where I can judge his attitude like a lot of people on here are (that's just my opinion). Besides, I think the interviews with Nathan and Stana last year were a deliberate marketing ploy, with Nathan saying they should hold off and Stana saying they should get together. Basically they seemed to be deliberately taking opposite viewpoints on the subject (Caskett) in order to build up the interest in the show and get people talking about Caskett. In terms of Molly Quinn, there seems to be a mindset that she's still young and a bit naive and maybe that's why she apparently rubbed people up the wrong way last year with her "behaviour". I'm guessing that a lot of people who are commenting on Molly's demeanour are people who think they know all about how tough being an actor/actress on TV and in Movies really is. There was a lot of negativity in the air last season as people were becoming frustrated by what they saw as a lack of "movement" between Castle and Beckett and there seems to be a mindset going on here where anyone who says something negative about this show gets criticized for it. There is a lot to like about this show but like every other show it isn't above criticism. As far as I'm concerned about Nathan, Molly and the rest of the people involved in this show, they are doing a mighty fine job bringing us this really special TV Show and they deserve at least some credit for that. I can't wait to see how things play out in Season 5. September still feels so far away...
ReplyDeleteTo be fair,nobody here knows what Nathan will do at Comic Con. He may be splendid and gush about Castle non stop. My observations however are based on several recent interviews given by him. He seems to be stuck in the past and not really embracing what's in front of him (for 4 years we've been right here...). He seems to have this skewed sense of entitlement and can not grasp the fact that his show was cancelled. Whether he wants to or not,he is the face of Castle, he should promote it a little more enthusiastically. Sigh,when everything is said and done, how can I dislike the guy? He gave us ALWAYS.. Mino
DeleteThe problem nathan is himself a huge fan of firefly, so he can't stop himself. I haven't read any monaco tv festival interviews yet, but most french journalists said he was more chatty once the topic about firefly and joss whedon was mentioned. i think he is a lost cause lol. If you watch his latest interview with stan lee on youtube, he clearly says castle is "easy" and firefly is a kid dream come true so there you go.
DeleteI know, I saw the video. Alas, I will get off my soapbox and just concentrate on the awesomeness that was ALWAYS and hopefully for more greatness to come. This is what happens when I take a few days of vacation,trolling the internet. An idle mind is a playground for the devil, I guess. Anyway, can't wait for season 5 . I keep thinking we will hear Castle pleading: apples,apples,apples. I think it's a given that they will keep their relationship under wraps for a while. Should be funny and filled with double entendres. I feel silly admitting that I love their jealous selves but they do it soooo well...it doesn't get old for me. Not wishing my summer away,though. Just patiently waiting and from now on, staying away from any Castle Internet chatter..for my own sanity and continued enjoyment of Castle. Mino.
DeleteLate to reply, but I agree with you Anon 12:24. As much as people here like to call Firefly "that cancelled show" and what not, this Firefly situation is pretty unique, so reporters keep asking Nathan about it. Plus Whedon has been super cult for a long while and is very hot right now after Avengers, and Nathan is known to be his go-to actor, so there you go. What is he to answer when asked about his Whedon projects, "no, let's talk about Castle instead"? Yes, he seems like a guy who would be more interested in Whedon stuff than Castle stuff himself, so what? Fans should dictate actors what to like and what hobbies to have now?
DeleteAnd I don't see where he is being ungrateful, he always talks about how lucky he is to have Castle and how he never had a successful show before, and here I read people call him high nosed and unappreciative. He might be more interested in sci-fi personally, but he does his fare share promoting Castle like in Monte-Carlo (on hiatus btw). Don't get me wrong, I understand that if you're a shipper Stana will always be your queen and her opinions will be closer to yours, I just don't see why it makes Nathan a bad guy like some people here said. Some of them just sound jealous (of that cancelled show) and immature (wanting actors to behave "just so" and if not, then they are "ungrateful"). In short, NF is not a shipper king, true, but he is not a bad guy either because of that. You don't like his opinions - don't read his Castle interviews as somebody here suggested, but no need to take your fan frustrations further and make him out to be a SOB. By all accounts he is a very nice guy, being constantly asked Firefly questions in interviews and being indifferent to Caskett doesn't make him a monster.
(same with Molly, who is just a teen to boot)
When u get sad that Castle isnt going to Comic Con, just think about Always sometimes it just hit me that they are togheter now like really no dream no fanfic they are TOGETHER TOGETHER!!! ahhh I cant wait for september(I kind of whant that my summer go faster which is crazy but then again I learned to love Mondays soo..)also which one do u think will wake up first???????????????? Im putting my money on Castle;)
ReplyDeleteThey could have so much fun with the waking up in bed together scene. For example, they could have Rick be the one stirring awake and then have Kate say "don't get up yet, stay in bed" just like the "Cuffed" episode last season (which had Rick making that comment). Also, it would be really funny if Alexis came home at 9am (there was a Season 2 episode where Rick told Alexis to be home by midnight because it was a school night and she reassured him that she'd be home by nine) and discovered that her father found something better to do the previous night than watch TV and hinted this to him!
DeleteThe one thing I'm hoping they could improve for next season what they put in the promos. The first ABC Promo for "Always" had Beckett saying the line: "he's behind my Mom's murder", yet that line was never in the episode, nor was there any major development on who really was responsible. It was the same for the "Headhunters" episode. There was a line from Esposito in the promo that from memory wasn't in the episode. Other than that little gripe I think they're doing great and Season 5 can't come soon enough!
Something Molly Quinn tweeted when asked how Alexis would react to her dad and Kate dating. She wrote:"She might not know for a while. But I don't think she will be surprised or even care at first.Her dad has had a lot of girlfriends." She went in to add,"Her dad doesn't share his love life with his kid. Alexis just knows him as a playboy from the tabloids. But Alexis doesn't watch the show. She doesn't see the special moments with her dad and Kate in the freezer together or sharing eye moments. But she definitely does respect Beckett as a professional." ok so the article for this is at wetpaint.com/ castle and it should have this subject up. Anyway the article was good and Molly did say Alexis would be supportive so I'm happy about that.
ReplyDeleteBrit, thats good to hear. She seemingly disliked the idea from what I've seen in the past. Paley was the most obvious. Even in last years comic con, she showed dislike. So maybe Molly had matured a little and is actually saying something worth while. I read some comments above and seems like Molly screwed up once again in some interview or Facebook or twitter, not sure. She's a kid, so don't take her comments seriously. I think some fans got quite upset with her. Not sure what she said, but its probably something against Beckett, or something about not being happy. Anyway what you just posted shows more maturity so good for her. My complaint would be that I hope she doesn't still do the internship. That was just s stupid storyline in a very lame attempt to give alexis more lines. The whole scene with her in the morgue and giving medical advise just made me roll my eyes. She's a regular kid, therefore make her have a regular life, college, boyfriend, parties...the occasional c grade instead of being some perfect kid.
DeleteSomeone above mentioned Rory Gilmore. Yes I agree that character was flawed but so lovable. Unfortunately Alexis doesn't come close. Alexis can be quite judgmental of people and thats her flaw but it isn't a cute flaw. Rory Gilmore had many flaws too, but she always maintained that sence of respect for everyone around her, simple, sweet girl with impeccable manners and super smart but also made mistakes with her friends, her boyfriends, her mom. Even with all that you can't help but love her. Don't know, maybe it's just Alexis Bledel, the actress who played her that did such an amazing job. But Rory Gilmore is still one of the best teen characters portrayed. Alexis needs to be more like her.
Ya Molly is a kid. She says stuff but people shouldn't take it so seriously that they get upset because of it. I haven't seen the rory Gilmore character your describing on tv but she sounds great. I still like Alexis of course, even though I do agree her storyline with lanie was stupid and Alexis could have been better. However I think that after cops and robbers, she started to trust Kate having rick's back again, I would like Alexis and Kate to talk in the season 5 premiere to know where they stand. I would like Alexis sometime in season 5 to tell Kate what she went through during kate's shooting with her dad being broken. I want Alexis and Kate to become close and friends even if it takes time to get there. I really think that will happen, and I can't wait for Alexis to start trusting Kate. I hope we have fun moments in season 5 of Alexis that we Only got a few of in season 4. I also want to see Alexis and Kate ganging up on rick
DeleteBrit, you should watch it. It's called Gilmore girls. It ended already but it went up to 8 seasons I think. Rory is smart, like going to harvard smart, but so much more fun and much more nicer than Alexis character. It was a really good show. The relationship between mother daughter is just lovely. Way better than castle and Alexis, if you ask me. Those two were always my favorite parent and child relationship. And here's a something cute. The actress that played rory gilmore, is Alexis bledel who looks like a young version of Stana katic. Go check it out.
DeleteAll the way from Malaysia...
Anon 6.55, totally age with you. Gilmore girls was very nice. And lorelai and rorys relationship was much better and realistic than castle and Alexis. As much as Lorelei and rory were best friends, Lorelei would often be the mom and scold her or call her out on her attitude if she was being difficult. They would fight and act like a real mother and daughter. Lorelei would be firm with rory and tell her if she was being unreasonable. Something we never see in castle. Honestly ident like Alexis last season either. Many a time I wanted to slap Alexis. Castle needs to be more of a father and call her out on her bratty behavior.
DeleteWow it's been so long since I visited this blog, and now we have a new spoiler, though we already kind of figured this out, but still thanks.
ReplyDeleteI would love for it to be a secret for a while. And there was a comment above saying Sorensen should come back. I agree, Sorensen, demming, josh, don't matter, all very hunky. Wouldn't mind seeing them again. And of course it's about time we saw castle squirm and go nuts. Jealous Beckett is funny, jealous castle based on last season is downright annoying and pathetic. So maybe he can redeem himself by being jealous funny again.
Ah the Nathan debate. I thinks he has made it quite obvious over the past few years, that castle the show will always just be a paycheck to him, and nothing more, so I never expect any promoting from him. That's just Nathan. Is it annoying, hell yes. Does it matter to me, no. I love the show, and all it encompasses, so I will watch. Nathan enjoying doing it or not is not my concern. Though I always have this question in mind. How does ABC, Marlowe, miller, bowman all feel when they see his interviews. If I were his boss, I would be disappointed. We are all just fans who don't see, don't know him, and yet it annoys us. So how do his fellow collegeues feel about it.
I work for an oil and gas organization, and if I was promoting another similar company, I may get fired. Not the best of analogies but similar.Hehe. Maybe Nathan knows his importance to the show, well he is the title character, therefore plays his cards well. Maybe it's like if they don't like what he is doing he will just walk out. Now he knows they aren't going to risk that, not with their ratings. So he does what he feels like. Hmmm, something to ponder about. Just my two cents about the Nathan thing. And also why is them not going to comic con a big deal? Give others a chance. I think ABC was right in its decision. Anyway Nathan will be there I guess, he won't miss out on an opportunity for attention. He said once that going to these things make him feel good about himself and special, and we know he loves having attention.
Ok, back on my soapbox. I do wonder what Marlowe, Miller and all the others feel about Nathan's less than enthusiastic promotion of Castle. I do think he does the rounds when the premieres and sweeps come along but he is so opposite of Stana who is always so gracious and grateful to her fellow cast mates and adoring fandom. She often mentions Nathan and is always so positive about Caskett's and Castle's future, something that he does not do. Believe me, I can separate character from actor so that I am all in when the 5th season arrives but it's nice to know that Stana is also all in ( or at least is better at selling it). It makes me sad to think that maybe this is the last season because the star lacks confidence in his own show. Love all of these guys and we should really give Molly a break, she gave the BEST valedictorian speech EVER. Besides,the direction of her character was not chosen by her. Mino
DeleteSo Im really excited to see where season 5 goes. I hope Stana is right and they keep it quiet from others, that will be cute. Read most of the above comments and here are my thoughts.
ReplyDeleteComic con- well doesn't really matter weather castle is there or not, as loyals fans will still watch. I'm not upset they aren't going to be there, after all it makes perfect sence to send in other shows that are new.
Nathan the buzz kill- yeah that pretty much sums him up. Not surprised, hasn't he always been the buzz kill. I read some of his interviews when I have time, not all, but the answers are always the same. In a nutshell what you hear in his interviews now are what you would have heard two years ago. You know, the moonlighting curse, fan will flip the channel, be careful what you wish for etc. yeah so you need not read any of his interviews, it's almost mostly recycled.
Molly drama- she is young and is trying to get attention, which is why I think she is constant agreeing mode with Nathan. Also her butting in as someone put in paley, again I think it's because she wants attention. She's a kid so I forgive her. As a young actress, partly I don't blame her, but at times she comes across as being obnoxious, and yeah maybe silly with her comments. But that behavior just proves that she's still a kid, so I try not to judge her.
I'm one of those fans that doesn't have to like the actor to like the character. Castle has always and will always be that to me. I adore Richard castle. But I've never exactly been a fan of Nathan fillion. He is ok I guess, but he is just another actor to me. Which is why his interviews disappoint me. I often listen to him hoping to hear something about castle, not his own life or firefly, but that's what I get. So yeah just sit back, don't bother with these interviews and just hope that Marlowe gives us a good season.
I'm not a shipper but I do believe that these two needed to be together already, so I'm glad they did. I mean their chemistry is great, so make use of it. Let's hope for the best in season 5.
I totally agree with you with everything, my thoughts exactly..season 5 is gonna be awesome!! even with all the hurdles ahead ;-) however 2 differences, I am a shipper so off course i am super exciting for that part and still a great nathan fillion fan...but slowly decreasing. Not so much on what he is saying, but that he is repeating himself over en over..even telling the same jokes at different shows at different air dates (some more than year apart) is getting pretty annoying. Thank G that he is still pretty to look at :-)
DeleteOn Castle...LOVE the show, the humor, the drama, the (bro) romance...it is complicated and the perfect formula for a show i love to watch..i mean if i spend a fraction of my time on school (spend otherwise on friends and castle) ..I would probably graduate with honors ( cum laude )
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I think Nathan's biggest issue is his lack of confidence in his own show. This is obvious everytime we see the dude. Maybe he needs a therapist or something. I would think than since caskett are together now, he would play the marketing game, for his own good. I mean how long would fans stick around for a show when one of the leads doesn't even believe in it himself. His own personal opinions aside, doesn't he want this big paycheck to continue for years to come. His lack of confidence in the show and creators will undoubtfully cause some fans to start believing it and loose faith too. I suggest Nathan see a therapist, and also take up basic marketing 101. Lol...or maybe ABC needs to sit his butt down for a long chat...of you know what I mean. Lol.
ReplyDeleteAside from Nathan being miss Debbie downer, I love everything about the show and the cast, especially the three cops. Stana, seamus and Jon are great. And also tamala and penny.
Captian Gates may not be my favorite perso but I absolutely LOVE the lady that plays her Penny Jerald Johnson! I follow her on twitter and her tweets are always so genuine and sweet!
ReplyDeleteAhhhh some spoilers, looking forward to more.
ReplyDeleteAgree with some above, Nathan is a good actor but I'm not interested in his interviews for two reasons. 1, he focuses on the negative bits and 2, I can never tell when the man is joking or being serious. He jokes about everything, and I'm not a huge fan that I can tell what he means. So yeah appreciate interviews with any other cast much much more. Hope you guys can get an interview with Marlowe and Stana specifically. Theirs are always insightful, and well thought. And I'm not talking about shippers moments, just the show in general, Marlowe and Stana have a good grasp and their interviews are always a pleasure.
So nathan fillion will definitely be at comic con (not that there were any doubts). Comic con is going to have a special panel for the 10th anniversary of firefly. (confirmed by tim minear). i wish i was excited as i'm browcoat, but got tired of the constant worship by mr fillion and his fans. there many actors and people involved in the show, yet you don't see them talking about it every damn day.
ReplyDeleteSo Castle won't be at Comic Con because ABC wants to promote new shows, yet Firefly will be there? That makes no sense whatsoever. What the hell are they going to talk about?? It's not like there's an upcoming season to discuss or spoilers to reveal. I'm with the majority here- just tired of the constant Firefly worship when we have an even better show that lasted more than one season and is still going strong. And this Firefly panel pretty much guarantees that Nathan will be there to promote Firefly and Firefly only. I wish he cared more about the show that has earned him much more fame and money than Firefly. What a waste of a panel.
DeleteDo you know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result..I'm f**king nuts!! Once again,I search the web looking for Castle news and all I read is Nathan,browncoats and Firefly...urgh!! I watched the series and Serenity. I enjoyed them and then they ended...EVERYTHING ends. We move on... We have and LOVE Castle now. C'mon Fillion, say something reassuring :( Okay,okay...I must find my center. I trust and respect the universe...(umm,umm,umm), I will go back to blissfully naive YouTube and watch The Kiss in slow motion for the nth time and some fan videos. I hope they restore my faith in humanity...wish me luck... BALLS!! Mino
DeleteHaha i can already imagine NF in ten more years and he's still talking about Firefly non stop.
DeleteSo who wants to volunteer to ask castle related questions at that firefly panel because some hardcore firefly fans sure don't shy away in castle panels. :P
DeleteAhhaha oh boy, anon 7.04, totally agree with you. But I'm all the way in Malaysia hence no chance of me being there. So yeah I do hope some castle fans are present and can ask a question or two. I'm not being mean, but I would like the firefly fans to feel what some castle fans feel sometimes. Actually to me I don't mind firefly fans asking questions to Nathan or talking about it, not at all, but I think it shouldn't be when it's a castle panel. Just as a sign of respect to the rest of the cast members. I'm sure they have firefly forums that Nathan is constantly on, so I'm sure they get the answers they want.
DeleteJust to be clear, I'm not saying this relates to all firefly fans. And though I have not seen firefly nor do I intend to, I have nothing against it. Just my opinion on what I think is respectable for the entire cast.
^I hope someone does that! Or they could also ask Adam Baldwin about Chuck. Haha I would be fine either way.
DeleteYes not all firefly fans are like that thankfully, just a tiny bunch, like when nathan tweeted castle was renewed for s5, his mentions were full of "oh no i was hopping it gets canceled so you can go back to work with whedon (he's famous now! yay) or have a another serenity movies" etc.. and other bunch of nonsense.
DeleteAnd adam baldwin, i suggest some discuss about his political views hehe things will get heated very quickly :p
Yes i do think nathan is downer. His comments always seem to be negertive. I do get the impression that he dosnt like where the show is going. He has made that clear. He was asked when Kate and Rick should get together. I believe he said season 10. They were at an interview and everybody was on stage. Something was said about them getting together and Stana yell yea.Nathans look was disgusted.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion this is the really Moonlightning-curse the bad influence.I don't know if it is an act from Mr.Fillion
ReplyDeleteor his true opinion but I do know that this kind of influence killed shows like Remington Steele and Moonligtning and not the characters getting together.In these two shows the actors didn't like their show's too and didn't come along with their co-stars and that destroyed it.I think it could be that Mr.Fillion is right and the ratings are going down now when they are together but the same thing would happen when they did keep them apart because it is getting boring.So he is a great actor why not show it and proof the TV-World that with great acting and writing and good storys and good chemestry that Moonlighting curse doesn't exist.
I'm wondering if Nathan's stance has something to do with that whole mythical "Moonlighting Curse". He must be being cautious with his stance considering there are probably a lot of shows out there like Castle that have struggled to keep themselves going once the two leads have gotten together (I'm not a huge TV watcher and so therefore haven't gotten myself invested in many shows in my life). If that is the case then as far as I'm concerned (and many, many other people), I don't think he really needs to worry that much about the future of Castle. Given how strongly fans have felt about Caskett and how much they care about the two characters, it's a fairly safe bet that this show can grow even stronger from the already great heights it has achieved so far. I'm guessing that the "Moonlighting Curse" is nothing more than a silly tag that eventually gets stuck on shows where the two leads don't captivate and emotionally move the viewers no matter what the respective shows try to do (which is absolutely not the case with Castle).
DeleteAnother thing I've always felt, especially during Season 4, is that Nathan and Stana seemed to be deliberately taking opposite opinions on the subject of Caskett. This may have been a deliberate marketing ploy to drive up interest in the show even further by getting people talking more about Caskett.
As I said above I think that this show can grow even stronger over the next season and whatever else they can get beyond that. What it has shown is that if you can get two actors that naturally have great chemistry with each other (like Nathan and Stana have) then you have already formed the building-blocks that will ensure that a show will grow and grow. Perhaps why some shows don't make the grade is because they don't manage to get the right actors with the right amount of chemistry together. Castle is a great example of a show that has succeeded with getting the right actors together with the perfect amount of chemistry to ensure that it won't be hindered by feelings that the spark will burn out if the two leads get together. I for one, like Andrew Marlowe apparently does, think that they can have so much fun with this show now that Castle and Beckett are together and I don't see it has the beginning of the end for this show at all that they are together now.
It's super cute that Stana still refers to herself as a viewer when she's the star of the show. She seems to be really great in that she doesn't place herself above her fans.
ReplyDeleteBut jesus, Season 5, HURRY UP..
Funny thing about the Moonlighting curse is that in Moonlighting the couple hooked up (a night of passion) and the morning after they yelling at each other it was a mistake angry and bitter. They never got together, they never had a relationship. It was just 1 night. After that they built 2 seasons where she got engaged and pregnant with another guy (actress was pregnant) and he also had other stories. And then the show was cancelled!! They keep saying, even after 20 years, that that 1 night, the sex which resolved the sexual tension, was what killed the show.
ReplyDeleteIn my view, it's the opposite. It's how they handled the show after the sex that killed the show. You finally cheer up that they finally got together (it was like in Castle, the episode ended with them in bed) and the episode after starts with them fighting and breaking up!
Think about it: how would you feel if in the first 5 minutes of the premiere in september, we see caskett fighting in bed and breaking up. And after that in season 5 she gets pregnant of someone else and he sleeps around with girls!! I mean.. would you still watch Castle? Would you say that it was caskett which ruined the show or the dumb writers? :-D
And that my friends, is the reality of the moonlighting curse.
Same goes for Remington Steele, where they DID NOT get together until the last episode!!
So the curse is that if you DO NOT get them together, if you abuse the UST for too many years, and don't let the characters grow and develop together with their relationship, that's what kills the interest and commitment of fans.
In any case, for what I read Nathan has his opinions which are not shared by the writers and creator. And that's what really counts, only what Marlowe thinks and what ABC agrees to let him do.
Anon 1.11, couldnt agree more. You said it perfectly and accurately.
DeleteNow can someone send Nathan the above piece of info so he can actually know what he is talking about and not look stupid everytime he mentions this curse. Fans have been saying this fo so long, nathan has absolutely no idea what the moonlighting curse is about and that it actaully doesnt exist. For someone who insists on inserting that line in every interview, he should have done research. Truthfully im not even sure nathan has even watched one episode of the moonlighting. After all that show isnt a genre that nathan would watch. And from his lack of knowledge on what actually happened that caused the shows so called curse, i dotn think he has ever watched it.
And yes thank god the writers are smart and not blindly sprouting out stuff like Nathan.
I am actually old enought to remember Moonlighting and Liked it for the most part till like u said the writtng went down hill. There was a 6 months long writers strike also and then the show was on only spartically in the last season.Ppl lost interest because of that as well and the fact that it wasnt't on. It was just a bad situation all the way around and most def. not all about the fact they got together.Makes me mad as well to hear ppl take about it constantly.
DeleteI'm pretty sure Nathan and Stana were told to have conflicting opinions on Caskett getting together. That way all the fans are happy and it doesn't seem biased. Actually, I think all of the actor's "opinions" are fairly structured, including Molly's. I mean, they knew more than a year ago that this is how the 4th season would end, but their interviews and opinions have been consistent.
ReplyDeleteOn Comic-Con, it makes sense to me that they aren't going. I sensed some disappointment that part of the finale was spoiled in the previews, so maybe Marlowe wants to keep things under wraps this time. I can't think of many things that could be revealed at Comic-Con that wouldn't ruin the premiere. I'm fine with it, I just think about how MIND BLOWING the finale would have been if I wasn't expecting it.
Cheers!
I do remember Andrew Marlowe mentioning in an interview just before the season finale that he was a little bit annoyed/frustrated that the ABC and CTV promos revealed more about the finale than what he wanted. He wanted things to be surprising enough for the fans. I can understand why they did release what they did. They were obviously thinking that if they showed glimpses of the kiss (after Auseillo had been giving pretty obvious clues about it anyway), that they would be able to spike interest in it and get more people watching the finale than if they hadn't revealed anything. In the first ABC promo for the finale I remember Beckett saying: "he's behind my Mum's murder", yet that line never appeared in the episode, nor did we discover who the dragon really is as of yet. That kind of stuff can be really annoying for a show creator I'd imagine, not to mention some fans out there who would feel a bit cheated that the promo for the episode was misleading them like that. Like I said above I can understand the likes of ABC and CTV wanting to keep interest levels high for a show like this, but in the future I hope they're a lot more careful in not revealing too much in their promos as what a lot of fans really want is to be surprised. I'm sure there are heaps of fans out there that don't mind too much if too much stuff gets revealed in promos though!
DeleteNo i read somwhere that AMW talked to stana and nathan around midseason (gmtr interview? dunno), about the hookup, saying it's something inevitable for castle and beckett, that's around the time that nathan stopped talking about moonlighting curse, even in paley festival he was very positif saying there's 12.9 chance that C&B will get together. So basically trust only AWM when it comes to interviews.
DeleteAs for comic con, abc sent nathan to london and monaco for promo, so they can pass comic con. really it's not a loss, watch youtube interviews of last year comic con, we're not missing much. It's just nathan goofing around, he answered the same old quetsions with the same old p.r answers. My favorite video is when asked what he thought about the death of the captain(aka Montgomery), he starts talking about captain mal reynolds ...oops.
Totally agre with you..We just have to read what Marlowe says....and only Marlowe!! He's the one who knows what will happen...
DeleteOne more thing about the 'moonlighting curse' that hasn't been mentioned a lot. There was a writers strike that year that really hurt the scripts. That had to factor hugely into the demise of the show.
ReplyDeleteSteering away from things regarding Nathan's opinions, here's a few things I'd like to see in Season 5 (won't be disappointed if they don't eventuate).
ReplyDeleteAlexis saying to her father "I see you found something better to do than watch TV last night" in the premier (referencing Beckett).
The mysterious "Dragon" to be finally unmasked and the Johanna Beckett murder case finally solved (given the way they've slowly released information about this case over four seasons I'd expect a conclusion to it to be somewhere near the end of Season 5 at the earliest). Also, I would love to see the final confrontation between Rick and Kate and the Dragon take place in the same alley where it all began (with Bob Armen's murder and later on Johanna Beckett's murder also).
A two-part event that doesn't involve saving millions of lives or trying to stop WW3. Maybe something similar to the Season 2 two-parter. Maybe a deranged ex-con who Beckett put away coming back to get vengeance (although that could be a bit too OTT).
An episode or two that delves into the past of Captain Gates (we don't know a huge amount about what she did before taking over from Captain Montgomery apart from the fact she was in Internal Affairs). Also a few more awkward moments between her and Rick (like in 47 Seconds where she asked him to go over the interview files as she was aware he was a good speed reader) would be funny, with her eventually allowing him to stay without being forced to by the Mayor.
Rick and Kate's relationship advancing to the point where she moves in with him. I think given how long they took to finally get together it's still a little bit early to have them getting engaged. Perhaps they should save that for the sixth season, presuming that they get renewed for that this time next year. The bigwigs at ABC would be completely bonkers to slam the brakes on this show by the end of the fifth season given where it's at and the fact that viewer numbers have increased as the seasons have progressed.
Finally, further developments on who Rick's father really is would be cool too. Maybe that will take over from the Johanna Beckett murder case once that gets cleared up.
I hope I never have to say this again but next time I go to a CASTLE fan website and I see the words."moonlighting curse,Firefly or browncoats"' I will gut somebody and make a sweater vest from their skin and hair,ok? Ok.I feel better now ;)... But I digress...I'm so excited and apprehensive about season 5. ALWAYS left me feeling so...shiny, that I'm a little nervous. My wish list : 1. Having them wake up in each others arms,of course,and not having to rush out of bed(I don't want to see them scrambling,looking for their clothes).2.For publicity reasons, Castle has to maintain the allure of bachelorhood,keeping his relationship secret. doing photo shoots with hot women...LOVE my jealous Beckett.3.Agent Shaw comes back with her awesome toys and her knowing looks.4.More poker games with fellow scribes.4. Laser tag games with Alexis.5. They ALL go back to the 12th. 6. The Ryan's. 7. Tons of CASKETT moments.8.Tons of CASKETT moments( I'm serious about this one)...The audacity of hope.
ReplyDeleteWell said Anon 7.03 AM. This article was supposed to be speculating about what happens next re: Caskett but has instead turned into a heated debate about Nathan Fillion not showing his current show enough love and being apparently obsessed with Firefly and a certain mythical "curse".
DeleteI believe your first wish will come true. We will indeed see them waking up together in bed. Andrew Marlowe has pretty much confirmed this because he mentioned that he would be more or less cheating the fans if he didn't show it. It will be interesting to see who finds out about their new status and who gets left out of the loop. There's a great opportunity there to have so much fun with them hiding their new status from certain people for a while. I'm sure Martha and Alexis will find out. It would be especially funny if Alexis tells her father when she gets home that "he found something better to do last night than watch TV" (referring to Kate's presence but without Kate in the room with them).
I've heard once that they would like to show more poker games between Rick and the real life writers but unfortunately they can't always get them together because of their busy schedules. It would be great if they could find a slot for them to fit in though so they could tease Rick about his muse/girlfriend.
It's pretty much a given that once the dust settles from the premier that the family will get "reunited" in the 12th Precinct. I think that they can't use the Mayor forcing Captain Gates to keep Rick at the Precinct card again. Since Captain Gates has found it really awkward to give Rick praise (she was always being condescending and looking down on him as inferior), another awkward scene (like in 47 Seconds) where she admits that he is a good influence in the Precinct and can continue working with the detectives if he wants would be priceless.
They have promised us that there will be a lot more "fun" episodes in Season 5. In the past the banter between Castle and Beckett has been mainly done to wind each other up and get on each other's nerves, but now that they're together the banter will become more playful and I for one can't wait to see that!
I have never had the desire to own a DVD. I do have seasons 1-5 of The Closer,but they were a gift. However, I'm sitting on pins & needles waiting for Castle's 4th even though I don't think I'm ready to revisit some of the dark,angst-y,irritating, frustrating episodes that took a few drinks and slamming the car door on my hands a few times to shake off. I think it's Sept 11th, which makes that bittersweet..sigh!
ReplyDeleteBTW, a lot of the awesome (yes,I said it) banter seen in the first 3 seasons would still work because it was not always sexual in nature. They can still finish each other's sentences,Castle can still be meddlesome and touch things, Beckett can still be exasperated at his outlandish theories and yeah,they can still have a lot of eye-sex...they are professionals not people who would show PDA in front of their colleagues. I would like to see them being coy, though,trying to sneak a kiss in...it should be fun.
After watching The Kiss on You Tube for the 300th time (yeah,right!),it hit me like a slap in the face why I love that scene sooo much...I BELIEVE Stana's Beckett. I believe when she tells him she's sorry, I truly believe that in that moment in time, all she wants is Castle. The tenderness with which she caresses his face and she gingerly outlines his lips with her finger is almost palpable. The way Stana allows Nathan to freely devour her lips and neck and caress her scar is sooo intimate and gentle because that is what Beckett would do. I sincerely appreciate how Stana gives so much of herself to have her character so effortlessly and honestly come to life..I believe her...and for that, I thank her.
Uurrgghh!! Looks like Demming will be back to stir up our Caskett pot...BALLS!!!! Can we have a few eps of Rick/Kate bliss,pretty please?? I may hyperventilate 'til Sept..Michael Trucco is on hiatus, I hope(Fairly Legal has not been renewed yet..LOVE that show too). He tweeted a picture with Nathan,Seamus and himself reading over what appears to be scripts..Oh em effen gee...I may not be ready for this. I HATED Demming because,well, you know...Apples!!!
ReplyDeleteNo demming won't be back, trucco has a contract with usa network for the tv show fairly legal, that works pretty great, so don't worry. fillion and trucco are long time buddies from before castle. if there is any guest star, you be sure ausiello has the scoop, they all start shooting in 3 weeks so will know more then.
DeleteSeriously, I don't understand why people keep talking about Demming's return in season 5. If it is speculation from the photos posted by Nathan and Michael, that I don't think it's true. They looked like they were in a private party, not in a table read....
DeleteOk I'm confused, why do some people think demming is coming back. They were probably just holding some other papers, nothing to do with castle.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure he isn't, at least not so soon. And besides I don't think any of the cast members even have the script for season 5 premise yet. And even if demming were making an appearance it wouldn't be in the first episode. Maybe down the line some other episode. Though if they were bringing any of becketts ex boyfriends back for an episode, I hope it's Sorensen. I actually liked him. And besides he can ruffle castles feathers mor than demming because Beckett did actually love Sorensen, she didn't love demming.
Castle not being as comic con is not a big surprise to me. It's normal for networks to send newer shows to garner more publicity. Anyway, I would rather be completely surprised with the premier in September than have a snippet shown at comic con. I'm super excited for season 5.
Nathan and his constant firefly worship can get annoying, but that's just who he is. So be like me, I stopped following him on twitter because I got bored. I like the guy but I'm more interested in his character castle than I am in him, and let's face it he doesn't say anything about castle at all, so it was pointless for me to follow him. And yes I agree his interviews often give the same thing. It's nothing new. I really want an interview from Stana or even Andrew. I love their interviews, so full of insight and depth, and honesty. Like recently Stana said in some Spanish interview that castle and becketts relationship will be complicated, but it will be compelling. And that's being honest, she isn't sugar coating it for us shippers, we know it will be complicated but it will also be a wonderful journey watching them grow and manage hurdles, and that's always compelling to watch. I'm not looking for a fairy tale, I'm looking for realistic and that is castle and Beckett.
I doubt that Demming will show up again. Just like the Josh and Gina wells, the Demming well is dry too. Therefore I cannot see him getting in the way of Caskett like he did (unintentionally) at the back end of Season 2. Andrew Marlowe has stated enough times that once Rick and Kate are together he wasn't going to drag them apart. Quite frankly it would be a foolish mistake to drag them apart now or at any time until this show's run finally ends. I don't expect the journey from here to be plain-sailing for Rick and Kate, there will be bumps in the road from here, but none of these bumps in the road should be designed to drag them apart. In fact, they should serve as moments that actually strengthen the relationship between Rick and Kate even further. There is so much stuff to look forward to with these two. From the way I see it, them getting together should not be viewed as the beginning of the end for this show, but rather as a whole new chapter of this remarkable show that they can open up and explore and continue to produce a wonderful story for another few seasons at least I hope!
DeleteSeason 5 poster:they got to be in bed(how much closer can they be,look at season 4 poster) and it should say Always partners...omg I cant wait!!!!
ReplyDeleteYou say bed that reminded me xfiles. they had pretty photoshoots back then, that famous gillian/david in bed picture can be perfect poster for season 5. castle could be reading some case files in bed and next to him beckett is reading his new book frozen heat.
DeleteMy wishes for castle season 5 are: Castle and Beckett having meaningful talks(ex. Why castle has been divorced 2 times( Beckett doesn't know Alexis mom cheated on him)), more lainie talks!, them waking up together, a christmas episode, a episode where castle and Beckett make dinner together, either as a date night, or for Jim, Martha, and maybe Alexis, but she doesn't have to be there., Ryan and Esposito saying something about how castle and Beckett seem to be leaving work together a lot more often than usual, or speculating that they could have gotten together but deciding against that possibility, only to be shocked later but happy, and make a ton of funny jokes about it at their expense. Finally, I want lanie and Esposito to get back together and then them, Ryan and Jenny, and castle and Beckett to all go out to dinner together, or hang out or something.
ReplyDeleteOn the Nathan thing I agree, I much prefer stanas interviews! She is a wonderful person and gives herself wholeheartedly to the character she is playing. I also love that she is like a real person, she is normal and not obsessed with herself, hint hint mr fillion. I am amazed at how smart she is too, I mean 4-5 languages? That is increadable, so hats off to her, the gorgeous creature:)!
You just forgot...good cases too!!....But, maybe, it was subtext!
DeleteOn the other hand, all you just wrote is good!!
I definitely agree about his past marriages. I would love forint to come up somehow, it's important for Beckett to know why those fell apart, and I would like to know too...hehe. And yeah would love a group outing, say after a case at the old haunt.
DeleteAs for Nathan, well he is stuck in the past. That's all I can say. And his interviews are the same old same old. He doesn't give us fans anything interesting to think about, no new insight. I agree with those that say don't bother with this interviews, especially of you're a castle fan. If you were a firefly fan, then sure you'd enjoy his interviews since he mostly talks about that and that alone. But someone like me who never watched firefly and has no interest in doing so, I find his interviews quite self absorbed. As the main character of castle he should be better at selling his show. This mayt be silly but I sometimes feel like Nathan only appreciates his firefly fans because he gives lots of info and talks about it. He forgets s castle fans. And that's sad because he is where he is because of castle. I kind of understand why some people think he is ungrateful. It may not be true but he sure as hell gives that impression. Anyway that just my personal opinion of him.
Anyhow at least we have good interviews that come from Andrew Marlowe and Stana. She is so invested in her character it's lovely to watch her talk about Kate becketts strengths and flaws. It's full of honesty and realism. Love it.
Yeah!! As I said before, the one person we have to listen to is Marlowe, even if he sometimes doing his subtext thing!!
DeleteHe's the one who knows what's gonna happen and, you're right, Stana's interviews are nice because she loves her character, but she and the other actors don't know what they will have to play early.
And I definitely don't care about Nathan's interviews & tweets!!
Haven't been on this site in months, and just came to see if there's anything new. Hope we get some interviews soon. Hahaha, yes please interviews with Stana and NOT Nathan. I laughed when I read someone call him Debbie downer. That's sooo true.
ReplyDeleteMy hope for season 5, is that we learn more about both their pasts...all we know now is castle has two ex wives and a string of relationships, and becketts mother was murdered. I hope there are more scenes at the old haunt where castle and Beckett are relaxing. More fun cases, sexy banter in bed before they sleep. Discussing cases in bed before they sleep. Will Sorensen showing up and annoying castle. Jealous castle is lovely.
Cast wait.
I think that the subtext that was so prominent in time it took to get Castle and Beckett together will be pulled right back and replaced with the two of them opening up more and more to each other from now on. I don't expect everything to come flooding out though, especially with the way we know Kate Beckett works. She had become so driven by her mother's murder that she went into her shell (or as she herself put, built up a wall) and didn't let anyone in until Rick Castle came along and finally broke through. The scene where she was dangling from the rooftop can be seen as her ultimate epiphany. She had faced death in the past before but Rick was always there with her (think the freezer and bomb diffusing scenes in the Season 3 two-parter as classic examples), but hanging there from the rooftop with Rick nowhere in sight made her finally realize how much she loves Rick and how much she is dependant of him.
DeleteIn Rick Castle's case, he too has struggled to be open with Kate as she is someone very different from pretty much every other woman he's ever been with (Kyra Blaine a notable exception). He figured out pretty quickly that Kate would not be charmed by his playboy ways and perhaps he secretly respected her for that. It was clear as early as the end of the pilot episode that he had found someone special and that was the real reason behind why he chose to base a character on her, even though it was heavily implied that he found something to heal his writer's block with a whole new world to explore (investigating and solving murders). By the beginning of the fourth season and after he'd finally told Kate how he felt, he had changed a lot from the man we saw in the pilot episode. Rick never intended to get serious with Serena Kaye (and in the same episode refused to be set up on a date by his mother because we all knew where his heart truly lay). He respected Kate's wish in Rise to wait until the "wall" of hers was down and gave her space, especially in Kill Shot. It was like a huge kick in the guts to him when she unknowingly revealed her secret with him in the observation room, but once he found out that she was in therapy he settled down. His desperate pleas to her in her apartment in the finale are still resonating among the fandom as much as the "first real kiss" scene is.
I certainly hope and expect the two of them to begin opening up to each other as their relationship continues to grow. I'd like to see things revealed gradually over the next season. I don't expect anything too extreme to happen between them (like a marriage proposal), but I'd be happy if they get as far as her moving into his loft by the end of Season 5. There is so much more material for the writers of this show to explore now that Rick and Kate are together and so I feel they don't need to be silly and rush things as that might undo the good things they've done to an extent.
Finally something… just 3 months guys. :D
ReplyDeletei hell want them to wake up in bed like they did in cuffed.
ReplyDeletemarlowe said there will be a morning after scene. i don't know why he said that maybe they already filmed it while filming "always"
DeleteTo put it simply: he has to show the morning after scene otherwise the fans will feel cheated and he knows it too. According to Seamus Dever in an interview he did sometime around the Season 4 Finale, they actually went over their normal eight day filming time per episode by two days. Maybe they were filming extra scenes that will appear in the opening episode of Season 5, who knows? I certainly can't wait to see just how Rick and Kate adjust to their new status and who they're going to tell immediately and who will be kept out of the loop. Their coupling should not be viewed as the beginning of the end of this show, but rather a whole new chapter (get it, chapter) for them to explore and hopefully take this show to even greater heights!
DeleteCan we have an interview with both stana AND nathan though? i haven't seen one in ages! ABC promo department do something!!!
ReplyDelete^^^this, please!!! So much fun
DeleteThat's probably not going to happen. I'm not one of those people who think that Nathan and Stana hate each other, but you rarely see them at the same events anymore.
DeleteI agree with the above that Nathan has become some sort of spoilsport who prefers to endlessly(!!!) talk about Firefly. It wouldn't even bother me if he'd just refrain from showing his dislike of Castle or Caskett so openly.
Actually, Fillion& Katic don't do interviews together because they don't want people to believe that they are really together!!
DeleteThey don't like it so they answer interviews together just when there's all the team.
There is an actually bitter story behind that (not the "they hate each other" one)can't say much but yeah you'll never see them promote or do stuff together unless it's contractually obligated say paley event or other similar stuff etc...
DeleteWTF? You just dangled a HUGE carrot in front of me and expect me to just drop it? Please speak,don't be a tease, I won't tell a soul (I'm crossing my heart).
DeleteAnyways,I'm a married mother of 2.5 ( my neighbor's kid is always with us) with a very stressful career and an inhumane amount of work staring unmercifully right at me but what occupies my thoughts now is: in season 8 when they finally get married(hope floats) and eventually make babies,I don't really see Beckett changing her last name by the way,are the children going to be Castle or Rodgers? Hum?......People, I seriously think this is a desperate call for help...so they say.
I have to say that the weeks since the finale aired are flowing by and Season 5 will be upon us before we know it!
ReplyDeleteNow that they're together I believe we will see them becoming more and more open with each other as the season progresses. I don't think this means that they will spill all their emotional baggage on each other in one moment, if anything it should happen gradually over the season. Season 4 was mainly about unravelling Kate Beckett. Her behaviour over the first 3/4 of the season was consistent with the things said by Rick during the scene in Kate's apartment during the Season 3 Finale. That being that she had hidden in her mother's murder for so long that she was afraid to find out what her life would be like without it to drive her any more (he also had a dig at her for being in a relationship with someone she didn't love (Josh)). The events of Season 4 were designed to help her finally realize that there was more to her life than her mother's murder, something that finally hit home for her when she was dangling from that rooftop with Rick nowhere in sight. Now that she has had this epiphany she will open up more and more to Rick. It will be interesting to see how they deal with the fact that Cole Maddox is still out there and intends (unbeknownst to them at this stage) to kill Kate Beckett, all the while trying to adjust to their new status and figuring out who to tell and who to keep it hidden from.
So, so much to look forward to!
Just to end with Ano12.24, I really don't think that Nathan & Stana hate each other or something like that. Actually, I think they appreciate each other but they just don't want people think they have a love affair.
DeleteThey are two goods actors, not extraordinary actors, but very good and the scenes they have together show that they like each other...I do think so.
Now, as Ano12.49 just wrote, I also think that the relationship between the two can make us find out a lot of things in the next eps. It's gonna be interesting to see Kate inside the couple, treating Rick as a lover more than a partner; and it's gonna be interesting too to see Rick acting like a man more like than a child.
I do believe that if Marlowe "puts the cards on the table", now that they're together, it could be and it should be a great season 5!!
okay anon 12:24 your comment about something bitter between Nathan and Stana freaked me out at first. So I did google it to see if i could find anything specific. The only thing i found is that Nathan supposedly called her a chicken sucker(like 2 years ago)... However anon 12:24 i dont know if this supposed incident is what you were reffering to but maybe whatever you think you know wether it was this or something else is wrong facts\rumors :) not trying to be rude i promise its just my thoughts.
ReplyDeleteI actually just watched a interview with Stana and they asked about her and Nathans onscreen chemistry. She said that she didnt think that two leads could totally fake it and that their had to be some natural chemistry between the actors. No i DO NOT think that Stana and Nathan are a couple but i really doubt they hate each other. I mean when we do get to see interviews with just the two of them they seem to be just fine and even tease. I watched one several days ago where they kept finishing each others sentences just like kate and castle do granted this was like back in 2010 but still.Plus remember sometime last year there was some rumor going around that nathan and stana hated each other and Terri Edna Miller had to tweet that this was false.
I just think like others have said that Stana is more shy at public events (like paley) although she is so silly and sweet when ya see her on one on one interviews. She is also seems like a private person when it comes to private matters(which she has every right to be-i hate it when people say she should be more open about her life -its HER life her privacy not anyone elses) whereas Nathan is more loud and stuff like that. So i guess my opinion on this whole topic is that they neither hate nor date each other. They are simply friends and coworkers with pretty diffrent personalities:)
~ brittany
In regards to Nathan and Stana, with the kind of on-screen chemistry they have naturally viewers start to believe that they are more than friends away from the screen, hence the shipper name Stanathan. I don't have a problem with the TV characters being shipped by the fans, but shipping the actors playing them is probably pushing things a bit far. Maybe this is why they're rarely seen together in public or in interviews, because they don't want to fuel any unnecessary speculation about them. Whatever the case I'm sure they're very good friends along with the other actors and staff involved in this show.
Deleteseriously every shows have fans being pushy, the vampire diaries fans even xfiles back in the days seriously shipping actors is nothing new that's not the reason Nathan and Stana are distant, they are actors they're used to ignore all this stuff.
DeleteAnon 1.06, I'm not sure about vampire diaries as I don't watch it but I was a huge x files fan, and fans didn't ship them in real life much. Gillian Anderson was married by the end of the first season and pregnant with a kid. So fans didn't really ship them.
DeleteIn any case I don't really care about their personal lives, I only care about caskett, and am so excited for The next season.
Brittany, I agree with you. There were some rumors from about 2 years ago about Nathan calling her horrible names and that stana loves attention and Nathan doesn't giver her that and that's why they don't get along etc. but as you said Terri Edda tweeted that it wasn't true. The earlier this year someone tweeted Marta Evry about weather or not it's tue that these two don't like each other, and she tweeted saying its a stupid rumour.
ReplyDeletePersonally I just look at the evidence here...when you look at bts pictures or footage, they are perfectly fine, look at the bloopers, they are playful and normal. That isn't how two people who dislike each other would act. They both have never said anything remotely mean about each other, and have even praised each other. I have never believed any of those dumb rumors because it doesn't make sence. Just look at the evidence...
According to some rumour two years ago, Stana is disliked on set. But if you notice the cast members and crew have often tweeted about pictures with her and how nice she is. The are pictures of her with seamus, jon, tamala, ruben who has many a times praised her, penny too has said how she loves stana, the bts pics with some of the writers etc. From what I heard back then it was apparently a firefly fan that was not happy with nathans pairing with Stana and just started some rumour to make Stana look bad, again I don't know if this is true, but it's possible. I'm a huge firefly fan, loved it and love castle now. And I love the pairing, Stana is the prefect Beckett.
Then the was a rumour that Nathan was not following Stana for a while on twitter so that has to mean that she is a big bad wolf. Because of that, people assumed they were fighting. And now he is back to following stana so things are ok. Twitter unfollows people all the time. And btw, Terri Edda and Andrew Marlowe do not follow Nathan but they follow Stana, Seamus,Jon, tamala and Molly on twitter. Does this mean Andrew and Terri don't like him???Seriously...how silly can people be. I swear some people's deduction skills are downright pathetic...basing a relationship on twitter. Again, look at the evidence, bloopers, bts pics...they look great and don't seem to have any issues.
I am certain they never had or have a personal relationship. They are co stars and work together, that's it. As for why they don't do interviews together anymore, I'm guessing it's because they are afraid to give the wrong impression. If you see them together they look comfortable, like any co star or friends would be. I mean they have to right given the crazy hours they spend together. But some fans may see this and get the wrong impression, thinking there's someone there. So as a solution, better to stay clear. Not to lay blame but the whole stanathan shipper thing may have caused this. I mean they both are in other relationships, so it's kind of weird that fans not only root them on the show but in real life too. Its got to be really hard on them. So I think they get along perfectly well but minimize any public display so as to not encourage stanathan fans. Nathan has had a few girlfriends I think, and Stana from what I have seen has been with her boyfriend for like 7 years, form way before castle even started. If you see old pics, he is always there somewhere in background. She has mentioned In a previous interview that she has a gentleman in her life. And no, she never said that that tall dude was her brother, so she did not lie, she just also never admitted to having a relationship. As Brittany said, Stana is very private and keeps her life as private as she can, and I applaud her for it. It really isn't any of our business who she sees. Nathan is the loud one and more into publicity so yes that makes him the favorite but I love them both equally and respect their work. They are just very very different people. That's all. That's most likely why their chemistry is crazy amazing.
You are so right! Stana and Nathan are very different and they shouldn't work but for some crazy out of this world reason, they do work, and they work wonders. I agree, their chemistry is through the roof, better than any I've seen, and it's probably because Of their differences. Their differences just work so well and meld together. Ahhh I cannot wait at all for season 5. About 2 and a half months left...
Delete^^anon 11:24 thank you. And yea now i remember the rumor about stana...how dumb. I mean have you ever watched\read her interviews or followed her on twitter ? She is so sweet and down to earth and dosent put herself above her fans which is why i love her. Concerning her private love life i cannot deny that i want sooooo bad to know more about the man she supposedly dates but that dosent mean the public has the right to know as some seem people think that she is "too private" . as i said its her life and her right to privacy :)
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Yeah I really like her, she seems very simple and nice, and I have not heard anything to think otherwise of her. I actually like that she is rather private. I know some fans think that's weird but I like that she hasn't got the whole popularity thing to her head. As Brittany mentioned she doesn't put herself above her fans. I have seen many fans writing and posting pictures taken with her and how nice she was when she greeted them. Would love to meet her one day.
DeleteIt's a breath of fresh air to have someone like her who isn't flaunting her private life to get fans talking. I really like that.
Anon 11.24, thank you for stating that. I remember those stupid rumors and being a firefly fan myself, I was quite embarrassed that a fellow fan was apparently the one that started it. Anyway that's old stories.
As for Stanas boyfriend, I think his name is Kris. And yeah he does happen to be in a number of photos albeit it's in the background. He must be a good guy and treats her right for her to have stayed with him for so long. I wish them the best. Recently I think it was the season 4 wrap party, they was a shot of him and penny Johnson jerald going in for a hug. Definitely shows he is not someone new in her life, he seems comfortable with her co workers.
Now as for what I hope for season 5, well I'd like them to sneak around. I think they would be too cute. I'm sure they will have complications but what they have can overcome it. I'm super edited to see the next chapter for caskett.
I always asked myself why Nathan was so pleased with Castle and Beckett getting together at Paleyfest so i did a little research and was reading all interviewes again.Stana said in an interview that the next step will be to find out if Castle is really ready for this relationship(always thought Beckett was the one who wasn't ready.)Nathan said there will be lots of problems and he want that Castle failed.AM said people fall in and out of bed all the time and they drive each other crazy in or out of a relationship.Somebody asked him if they are a couple now he answered this two don't know for sure and at the question if t will stick or if they break up like Lainie and Espo he laughs and said this is what happens with them.So i am afraid they show us that the relationship don't work and by the end of season 5 they break up and that's why Nathan is so pleased with it.
ReplyDeleteThe first part of season 5 will be the honnymoon. The last half will be the breakup. That way everybody will come back for season six to see if or how they will get back together.Just like lanie and espo.I just hope they have some real good crime shows
ReplyDeleteAnon 3.55, I don't think that's how it will play out. I think they will have a complicated relationship and they will have a lot to talk over and deal with. When two by stubborn complicated people get together, of course its tough, but I doubt Marlowe would just treat them like he did esplanie.
ReplyDeleteCaskett is something Marlowe has been working towards, he took 4 years to show and convince us as viewers that these two are meant to be together. He threw many roadblocks over these 4 years, and yet all roads have led castle and Beckett to finally dive in. I don't think he will just break them up.
We can't compare caskett and esplanie. Very different relationships and focus. Esplanie is just an added sub story to the show, not important. Caskett is the heart and soul of the show. Marlowe isn't stupid, he wouldn't want to piss off fans who have patiently waited for them to get together only to have them just break up. If you loose caskett fans, you basically loose the show. Marlowe knows that, which is why he didn't even want to drag it out any longer and felt it was the right time to get them together.
Their friendship and partnership is very important to both of them. They love and need one another. I think whatever the problems, they will force themselves to deal and work their way through. They won't give up so easily, not after everything they went through to get to where they are now. It won't make sence for the to just break up. It won't be an easy ride it it will be a fun ride, and they will come out stronger than ever.
And remember paley interviews were before the finale, so Marlowe had to be a little unchain about his answers, so as o to give away too much. He said at paley that when he feels it's the right time to get them together, he will do it. By then he already knew about the finale but still acted like it wasn't happening soon. His comment about the right time sounded like he hadn't decided when yet. But he did. From his post always interviews,I get the feeling their relationship will be tested and complicated but they will work through it. Besides Marlowe talks about the fun coming back, them breaking up will bring in more angst again. We had enough of that in season 4. He said it will be fun, so they will be ok.
Very very very good job!!!!!
DeleteIt would'nt make any sense to make them seperate after 10 or 12 eps in season 5!! It took four long years to get them together...Even if there will be, of course, problems between them, now, they can talk to each other and they're enough in love and smart not to destroy what we have so much waited for so long!!
I agree completely with anon8:09 and 8:24. It would make no sense for them to break up. After everything they have been through and all that they went through just to get together, I highly doubt they will just break up. I bet they're relationship will be both fun and complicated and that they may even have bad fights but at the end of the day, they love each other, and that love will always get them through. I think it is gonna take some episodes to find their rhythm. And AM said that once caskett is together, they are together. Their will be no tearing them apart. So this also contributes why caskett won't break up. Also AM said it will take a couple of episodes to see If Caskett are really going to work out, if they can really be a couple. He also said Gates will be an obstacle between they whole crew working together again and that it will take a couple of episodes to get that settled. So I think in ep 2 or 3, Kate will probably be offered her job back but Rick can't come too, seeing as that was the last book and he can't call the mayor again. So Kate will have to choose can she still be a cop without Rick working with her and being there as support to stay away from her mom's case or is him gone going to put a strain on their new found happiness? I think Rick is also going to have to choose of he can get another deal that allows him to shadow Kate still or will he be forced to move on and put a possible strain on his and Kate's new relationship? So I think both will contemplate that and jump to the other's defense in the end, which will show how serious they are about their relationship and getting what they want in the end. But just my thoughts. But ya, no way are caskett breaking up.
DeleteSome very good points you make Brit. I've read recently that Andrew Marlowe had decided as early as halfway through Season 3 that the end of Season 4 would be the time to get Rick and Kate together. He also said that he explained to Nathan and Stana that that was how it was going to happen. It's ironic now as during last season there were many people calling him an idiot for deliberately avoiding getting Caskett together, yet those people went strangely quiet after the finale. I wonder why lol?!
DeleteI'm guessing that they intended to have Captain Gates take over the reigns from Josh as the most hated character on this show, but I really like her! It was always amusing how she was so condescending and nasty towards mainly Castle and at times towards the other detectives, but whenever she did need Castle's help she found it awkward to talk to him. They definitely cannot use the Mayor forcing her to keep him thing again, which makes me think that sometime during the early part of Season 5 Captain Gates is going to have an epiphany and will allow Rick to continue working at the 12th Precinct with the other detectives.
It would simply be a show-killer if they had Caskett break up any time from now on. A lot of shows seem to like causing angst by tearing people apart and patching them back up together later on but I don't think Andrew Marlowe likes that idea and would rather focus on continuing to deepen the Castle/Beckett relationship. Besides, that's what soap dramas are all about (regular angst) and Castle definitely isn't one of those! There will surely be many more obstacles for Rick and Kate to deal with along the way, starting with the fact that Cole Maddox has vowed (unbeknownst to Caskett at this stage) that once he gets the sensitive files on his employer he's gonna make sure he kills Kate Beckett for good this time. No relationship should be plain-sailing but I hope they don't overdo the whole obstacle placing thing. Right now they don't need to keep creating angst to keep the interest in the show up. They have now opened up a whole new chapter to explore by getting Caskett together and by the sound of it they want to have a lot of fun with these two next season. It's already been nearly two months since the Season 4 Finale and before we know it Season 5 will be upon us!
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Anon 11.24, hahaha yeah I guess Andrew and Terri dislike Nathan since they don't follow him. It's so silly that some fans actually base who follows who on twitter as to weather they are on good terms or not. Just so you guys know, I'm married and I don't follow my husband on twitter. Never been a big deal to me or him.
ReplyDeleteYes Stana is definitely a very private person and values what privacy she has. As much as I would also like to know more about her personal life, as you said its not our business. Btw, that guy with her is totally hot.
I'm looking forward for some insight to season 5, with no comic con, we won't be getting any spoiler soon. And even though fillion is going to comic con, he isn't going to mention castle, for sure. He will be too wrapped up in fans worshipping captain mal. He said in an interview once that he loves going to comic con because of the attention and how it makes him feel good. Obnoxious much fillion. It's sad that I loved captain mal, and fillion but his lack of gratitude for castle has made that love decrease tremendously. Anyway again thats not my business. I just hope Marlowe can shed some info for us die hard fans.
I get what you mean. Just ignore Fillions comments. It's annoying I know. So just look out for AM or SK interviews. Those are always fun. Stana does seem very shy and private. That's not a trait you see in many actresses these days. It's refreshing honestly. I read a quote from her once that said she loves romantic movies and chivalrous men. I'm guessing that mystery tall dark brooding handsome man in her life must be chivalrous. Since she has been with him for so long. I want one like that too... I can't believe they start filming this month. Finally, we are half way through this stupid hiatus. I miss castle so much. Since we won't be getting any bits in comic con, I hope we get an interview next month from AM.
DeleteI guess you just don't get his humour. Personally I don't understand how anyone can not see that he is joking about "being better than Neil", feeling like a rock star etc, but to each their own
DeleteI noticed too those observations mentioned by some here about Nathan's interviews - how he talks endlessly about Firefly but little about Castle. I agree he is the Debbie Downer for Castle. I think he really loves the attention that the Firefly fans give him. He usually is the one does the round of TV promos in NYC. It's a shame that he is actually the not too enthusiastic promoter for Castle. I really would like for ABC to send Stana to NYC to do the rounds of Castle TV promos since Stana has not done it yet. Nathan had done it so many times, it's time to send Stana to do it. I am sure she will do a better job promoting Castle in TV shows based in NYC. I am am being selfish too because I really would like to see Stana more in NYC promoting Castle. I had enough already of Nathan doing a half-hearted Castle promos here in NYC. That is what I see in Nathan when he promotes Castle in NYC TV shows.
ReplyDeleteyou sure sound like a bunch of under age meanies, guys lol. just read all the comments. funny, I never see as much Fillion hate on the webs as on Castle sites and especially here lol. you're all special snowflakes I guess. my unsolicited advice - relax and learn to accept different people with different opinions not as baddies but as different people and don't look for the negative when there is none. yeah yeah I'm on my high horse today, move along lol
ReplyDeleteGood job, guy!!.. You're so right!!!!
DeleteAgreed, what's with this Nathan Fillion hate fest? Whew, just came here after a long break looking for some Castle news and plumped into.. this. Looks like hiatus is getting to people;) What puzzles me is there's not even any reason, like when he chose Inara over Beckett in that interview and people flipped bad LOL. Mind you, I thought it was silly even then, but at least it had some reason. Now as far as I can tell dude spent half of his hiatus promoting Castle like crazy and even said "shame on me for believing in ML curse" in the recent interview, yet fandom is still upset and tries to find faults. It's odd. It really looks like NF (and sometimes Molly Quinn) is some kind of a scapegoat for the Castle fandom, when in doubt blame Fillion for something. As the poster above said, it's like the opposite of what the outside world feels, and it's really strange. Masochistic much, fandom?
ReplyDeleteSo, okay, Nathan has been promoting Castle,as well he should therefore I am willing to back off since I was one of the first to malign him.Moreover, I want to put the f@cking Moonlighting Curse to rest so I propose to the writers to include such mentioned curse in an episode...while sitting at home cuddling, they absent-mindly channel surf and pause ever so briefly on a Moonlighting episode.They can either choose to break the fourth wall and give a nod and a wink to the audience or make some remark about the demise of a promising show due to poor writing and bad timing...they can insert whatever they deem appropriate,that's for brighter minds...just saying. Mino
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