"Always" -- When the murder of an Army veteran puts Beckett on the trail of the man who shot her, Castle must decide how much he's willing to sacrifice to keep her safe. As secrets are revealed and feelings are put on the table, the lives of the detectives at the 12th Precinct may never be the same, on the Season Finale of "Castle," MONDAY, MAY 7.
Yeah it sucks :( My teacher made the mistake of not assigning any assignments until the end of the semester. I procrastinate in the form of fangirling.
Yep, I'm procrastinating too. I have a final on Wednesday that I haven't even begun to study for because all I'm doing if fangirling over Castle! Who needs education when you have much more pressing issues to deal with, anyway? ;)
Still not sure if Marlowe will do this one justice. I know lots are speculating that they will get together or will be close to it, but come season 5, Marlowe will probably just split them up again. After last seasons finale, we all thought coming into this season that things would be looking up for caskett, how wrong were we! I'm trying my best not to get excited about the finale as I don't want to disappointed. Just because cards are on the table, just like it was last seasons finale, doesn't guarantee anything. Just look what happened this season. Next season premier will probably start with them saying they need time to heal from the lies...blah blab blah...just so Marlowe can drag it out another season.
I for one have had issues with this season, but still watched every episode. I told myself from the get go that since I started watching it I will watch till the finale. But if nothing is resolved or caskett is being held back some more, for some other stupid reason, I think I will have to gracefully and respectfully walk away. So I will wait and see how season 5 starts, and if it's similar to this seasons premier, I'm officially done with it. No anger, or vengeance, but just because it would not seem realistic and interesting to me anymore. And I would be bored of their back and forth, I already am.
With regards to ausiellos blind item, I don't think it's castle and Beckett. Ausiello loves to troll, he always makes things seem like something it isn't. I wouldnt believe him. Something like this that will get fans crazy, Marlowe will definitely keep under lock and key. He won't give anything away. So if ausiellos knows it, I don't think its them. Marlowe knows how long fans have been waiting for caskett, he will want to surprise us. Anyway just my thoughts.
I agree with you 100%.. AM promised us ebb and flow.. all I have seen is ebb through the season... I don't think whatever they do in season finale.. will change the fact that this season is dull compared to previous seasons.
Serious? There has been ebb and flow, just not the degree that you want to see. We all need to keep in mind that this is a business and not AM's personal playground to get the fanbase charged up.
He is NOT going to make the same mistake as Hart Hanson; he as much said that when the 'called out' HH to get Booth and Brennan together.
I agree with you about Ausiello; no way would he have that level of inside information.
Oh my golly! I was watching the 20/20 that's on after DWTS instead of Castle and I just saw a new promo for the finale. I think I just died. Seriously. When Kate said, "I'm finally ready to deal with everything that happened that day" I almost cried. Dealing with some things and moving on to others... I AM READY!! <33333333 I will never ever survive May 7!!!!!!
Marta Evry @venice4change Twitted: Hmmmmm.....I wonder if it's possible to get to 3K followers b4 next week's #Castle ep. I have some awesome BTS photos (dangles carrot)
That first pic they both look utterly adorable and happy and in love...trouble is I think it's a behind the scenes shot from the ABC site of Stana and Nathan!
I also note they are both in matching blue which couples together always tend to dress alike - that's Kate and Rick obviously.
And I have to agree wholeheartedly with 6.33 PM, I'll be with you walking away in season 5 if Marlowe still hasn't got them together properly and is still telling fans that they will be "laying their cards on the table" - AGAIN.
They trouble is they never pick them up and look at those cards! He's strung this season out on a story arc that I found depressing and lacked any proper pacing (the secrets).
This wasn't so much a story arc more like another giant roadblock to them being together, last season it was Josh and Gina which I didn't really like that much either but in comparison to this season it was stellar.
Marlowe said he had "lots of stories" to tell about them when they got together, well I wish he'd hurry up and tell me them because I'm getting fed up with wondering what the next reason will be as to why they can't be together - probably because they can't trust each other or something...enough please lets just get them together and remove this huge elephant from the room.
I adore the show and Stana and Nathan but I can't enjoy endless stalling with these kind of things like Bones did (which I stopped watching too).
So fingers crossed that Marlowe this time means what he says and he will finally take the plunge - Bones finally did it so can you!
By the time Bones got around to it, it was too late...the chemistry had evaporated from the show for the most part. Also they made their relationship official in a sneaky, off-screen way which was really unsatisfying. They probably would have never made it official if it weren't for Emily D.'s pregnancy.
anyway I digress...back to Castle:
I agree with you about the story arc being unrealistic this season. Josh and Gina were more believable compared to the secret-keeping & PTSD, but that was mainly because Castle's ILY hadn't come out, so Beckett wasn't confident that Castle was serious about her which probably made her afraid to dump Josh. What made this season rather unbelievable for me was the fact that Beckett heard the ILY (which sounded like what she wanted to hear at the end of season 3), dumped Josh supposedly in preparation for a relationship with Castle...but proceeded to avoid discussing the ILY for months, even though it clearly meant a lot to Castle. Despite the PSTD, it made Kate seem rather cruel in my view for lying and leaving Castle hanging.
In the mean time, Castle kept silent and didn't say anything more to Beckett for 7 months...? I found that to be a little ridiculous when they had shared so many close moments together in the past. I've had more sympathy for Castle this season since Beckett never could bring herself to blurt out her feelings thusfar...although he didn't choose the best moment, at least Castle managed to get his point across.
Ah well, since we're on the brink of the finale I'll forgive the writers...I just hope the cliffhanger isn't more relationship angst.
Adjusting Alexis's words, I think I must hold my breath, cross my fingers and wish upon a star... just for the writers to get it right in the finale. I think our expectations are so high, and more importantly, so different, that I wouldn't like to be in MilMar's shoes. Some fans want Caskett to be together, some want them to just hook up, some want them to stay as they are, some want to see passion, others want to see romanticism, others again want action and an explosive cliffhanger (too), some want it light, others want it dark. At the same time they must wrap up a season but also keep us on the edge of our (summer) seats for a probable next season (maybe they just shot two alternative endings?!). What I for one wish, now that it really looks like Caskett might be Ausiello's blind item, is that they somehow deal with Beckett's scars, the memory of the shooting and its aftermath. Actually, looking ahead, I want them to share their experience of some crucial crossroads that they have faced. For example, I want Rick to tell Kate why he went to the Hamptons with Gina (end season 2), I want Kate to tell Rick that she had actually opened that door in that hotel room in LA, and I want both of them to tell each other what has been going on "behind the scenes" ever since they met. Of course that can be spread out in an undefined number of episodes, but they really should be picking on these past events. This would make the writing of the whole season and, in reflection, their relationship, the ups and downs, the challenges (DEMONS) and odds (HEAD CASE) they have had to deal with all meaningful. Sandra
Good job, Sandra, it's ok for me. The fact is that writers are different from one ep to another and it's difficult to have references from ancient episodes, but it would definitely be nice. I don't know what's gonna happen in the season finale at all but I'm pretty sure it should be great.
I know, but I guess Marlowe has a supervising role, as the show has indeed kept up a couple of themes/phrases/images throughout the season(s),eg. it's (not) enough, partners, have your back, love stories beating the odds, secrets etc.
Agreed, the finale is definitely going to be AWESOME in its own way, if not in an expected way...
I know that the writers are different from one episode to the next..but shouldn't it be the writers' job to watch previous episodes of the show so that they are aware of things like character development and plot continuity?
I think the writers have done a good job overall so I don't have many specific complaints, but I think it shouldn't be too hard for the writers to incorporate references to previous episodes. If fans who watch the show as a hobby can remember events, then the writers should be able to remember too...lol.
And I agree, this season has been dark but I think it's been a good one. People complained a lot about many things but if there's a kiss or something similar in the finale, everyone will change his mind!!!
yeah, sure, but it seems peeps are already focusing on the finale... And apparently ABC is, too! They kind of wrapped it all up for this last episode before the finale, which is then said to start "a new chapter". They wisely end this (fake) promo with the finale. Calm down?? - the one thing to do here is "scream like little girls"! roar!
I realize the scenes from the promo is for "Undead Again" and not the finale, but the current episode is supposed to be setting the scene for the finale, so it's understandable that ABC is mentioning both episodes in this promo.
Given that Beckett mentions she is ready to talk about her shooting in the promo, it's possible that"Undead Again" may have a mini relationship-cliffhanger at the end that they will resolve in the finale, e.g. Beckett starts a conversation and Castle doesn't know how to respond since he is still hurt...etc.
ABC promos for others shows are mentioning season finales too, such as "Once Upon a Time", and that show has 3 or 4 more episodes to go before the season ends I think.
I think ABC is just mentioning finales to get more viewers to tune in.
I have a nasty feeling guys. What if Beckett tells Castle she loves him, but Castle tells Beckett no? What if they can't be together because of something to do with her mom's case and thats Castle's Sacrifice? I really hope i'm wrong. Castle and Beckett belong together but i'm wondering, given the season finale title, what everyone thinks is going to happen may not be so. What if it's nothing but a red herring? Castle tells Beckett he can't be with her but he'll ALWAYS be her partner? Next season Beckett's moping after Castle, rather than the other way round. God i hope i'm wrong!
lol i know! :0) i had a feeling also since we are "almost there but never on the money" and thats what keeps us tuning back lol
but i was thinking in regards to the pics, i also had a feeling that the fire might be at the church, just to make it shocking. like there is evidence that the guy was there and they torch the place. remember in Rise where they said the library or somewhere was burned down and they lost the evidence due to an electrical fire? seems like this is what these guys do, they torch places that are relevant or hold clues. i was also thinking like someone mentioned before how Gates is IA, her character on 24 was such a badass bad guy that they might do the same thing. seems like all boss NYPD are corrupt. maybe she knows more than we think or she is feeding info; like a mole. so many cool possibilities, they can go any direction with this! another thought, nathan fillion had tweeted that they were shooting on the private practice set and he was asking how to recline the bed....we did not see any hospital scenes yet. maybe this is another clue?
what do you guys think? i am making my hubby think with me of possible scenarios and he is just so not involved :p this is why i love coming here and talking with all you great people!
it would be so amazing if they would do big castle episode screening outdoors where all the fans go and watch at night together then discuss
let me know if you have anything to add to my theories <3
THat is probably the most realistic theory I've heard about the finale.
All the cards will be on the table. Becketts secret is out.
The precinct will be changed forever. Well, everyone at the precinct certainly thinks that Castle has always been head over heels for Beckett. So when Beckett ACTUALLY says what shes feeling (thats a shock in itself) and Castle DENIES her?? I can just imagine Ryan and Espo's reactions now... utter disbelief and probably some confusion and anger.
Then they are going to make a breakthrough in the case, and ALWAYS ends with Ricks secret coming out as their investigating the case and probably getting duped by the bad guys, and the cliffhanger has nothing to do with romance. Its going to end with an explosion or near death experience.
BOO. When will they see that they're going about this all wrong!!???
WHEN THE HELL IS ABC GOING TO RENEW CASTLE FOR SEASON 5 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Don't worry, ABC hasn't officially renewed any shows yet. Castle is on every list as "likely to be renewed," and it was on the list of shows that are guaranteed to be renewed by ABC. There's also a new Nikki Heat, Derrick Storm e books, trading cards, and a board game based on Castle coming out this summer. Castle has also been sold into syndication to TBS (or TNT, can't remember) and you typically have to have at least 100 episodes to do that. Castle hasn't reached that mark yet, so there will be a season 5. Marlowe has been interviewed about season 5, and the finale to season 4 has already been shot. We know there's a cliffhanger, and if it were a series finale there wouldn't be one. On top of all that, Castle is ABC's only crime drama- it's a very popular show that regularly beats Smash and Hawaii 5-0 in it's time slot.
I don't know how many times this needs to be said for people to get it. Castle isn't going anywhere.
I dont think Castle's sacrifice is Beckett, it might be more in line with His secret. Does he or doesnt he tell her? I dont think he will ger the chance, marlowe hinted and knowing marlowe you can take this to the bank .... His secret will come out at the worst time possible. As a storyteller its the logical step to keep us engrossed! I think it would be right after beckett tells castle how she feels or inadvertantly at a pivotal junction in the case. If we were to believe that caskett shippers would be happy, marlowe will make sure they know what each other feels. Cliffhanger: beckett suspended and Gates is the mole for IA. (except only viewers will know that)- Recently gates gave an interview mentioning that she will get prominant character development and screen space in the upcoming episodes and reach a new understanding about castle, hinting positive one. I do not think Marlowe will repeat last years menu regards to cliffhanger. No one will be shot Cards on the table, minus subtext A caskett development thats justified
I do not wish for them to run off to the hamptons, i would not mind them stay apart due to her suspension or him having to go to Cali to help Alexis or a book tour...whatever ..... I am SURE the viewers would want to miss the beginning of their romance! I am imagining it would be Clumsy!!! They are too much in love for it not to be!!! Trying to stay low key at work and trying to keep it hidden from everyone will be downright hillarious!!! As for ausiello blind item, I do think it will be Caskett. However, I do think season 5, yes all of it will be FOREPLAY!! They won't consummate until mid-end of Season 5. Its perfect storytelling, else how would keep the viewers hooked for MORE!!
I also read, the fight on the rooftop Includes Gates.
I really dont think the Cliffhanger would include danger, life threatning situation, or near misses and misunderstanding. I think it will be a SHOCKING relevation (possibly only for the viewers). Could Jim Beckett be involved in this wife's murder inadvertantly. Is that why he took to drinking. Is that why he needs Castle to keep Kate away from it? Or is Gates, not who we think she is??
I'm telling you, the therapist is in on the whole thing!! He's using Becketts sessions as a way to get leverage in case she decides to investigate the case again!!! He'll kidnap Castle and break Kate's heart by telling her that he's been looking into the case without her all this time!!
@Kaela i read from a person who posted after watching them shoot that episode. I found it strange that no one mentioned it later. We will have to wait and see whether the eye witness testimony is accurate.
@ annon 2.26 i really do like your theory. Dr burke being involved would be a brilliant angle and would definitely catch the viewers unaware. Except I dont think they will take that route b/c he serves as a inside scoop into Beckettville for viewers. He will be needed in the future as well.
However as I have mentioned earlier, I think the cliffhanger this time will not be danger of physical nature, but purely shock value. We will be left stunned, but unlike season 3 this one would be emotional... Possibly a SHOCKING revelation of some sorts.
This is all great story telling folks, we would be bored to bits if it was all rosy. The element of surprise and at times disbelief is what makes us glued to it every week. So enjoy the ride!
I have a feeling that Beckett won't be angry at Castle because he is trying to solve her mom's case. I think she will be angry because that is putting him in the line of danger and she doesn't want anything to happen to him.
OMG! U know what I just noticed?! Am i blind? Maybe I'm blind. ROFL! In these pics they are talking to a african american women. HELLLO?!!!! Thats Montgomery's wife! I'M SLOWWW!!! LOL WOW Blonde moment. hehehehehe anyways i was wondering why Castle looked distressed in that photo. Maybe she says something that leads to his secret coming out right there. Do y'all think he's the one that will tell Beckett his secret or will come out some other way like through Montgomery's wife? Maybe she doesnt know about the file or maybe she did. I could see it either way.
Isn't is obvious????? They're going to tie-the-knot!!!! They're getting hitched!!!! They're going to have a hugh church wedding!!! They'll go on a honeymoon in the Hamptons and make Castle-babies!!! Do you Katherine Beckett take this man.....ALWAYS!!!! Do you Richard Alexander Rodgers take this woman...ALWAYS!!!
Lovely people in lovely pics :) The first one especially.
Anyways. I'm hoping we'll get some sneak peeks tonight or tomorrow for Undead Again. It looks like a lot of fun. also nice to see the smiles in the pics, though no doubt the writers will have Castle and Beckett a little warmer to one another now that Limey & Headhunters "ebbs" are over with - if only to make the revelation of Castle's secret blow things up all over again in a bigger way for the finale.
I'm also telling myself that Castle's shirt has a purple-ish hue to it, cos that's Beckett's favorite color, how could she possibly resist??
I guess ABC released the composite promo because it's heading into sweeps shortly, and we'll get more specific promos soon. It's understandable that they'd go ahead and tease viewers with "will a whole new chapter begin?" type stuff in wrapping up the one season and starting the next.
Still not convinced that Ausiello's blind item is Caskett - because if it is, I guess I might feel it is too soon (dammit, mebbe he's right, lol) - just because after all the ebb, I'd hope the flow wouldn't be just falling into bed. Given the glacial pacing of the holding pattern S4 has been, I'm hoping Marlowe holds to his earlier words that he wants Castle & Beckett's choice to be with one another something special.
I'm betting Perlnutter, or whatever his name is, is back to help set up the Joanna Beckett aspect for the finale, since he was with Castle & Lanie when Castle first made his discoveries back in S2. I'm also excited to see how Montgomery's widow features in the story.
I think Caskett will actually talk for the first time in a significant way, but I don't think S4 will finish with them a consummated couple. I think that could be left a dangle for S5. There's a whole lot to cram into the last two eps. It's frustrating the writers decided to pace the season that way, but now we're here, at long last, where things will start moving again.
Here's to a good S4 ending, and plz to gawd I hope the show does indeed return to a sense of fun for S5, as Marlowe has suggested.
I believe that there will be a candid conversation, and they will say what they feel, maybe a passionate kiss and a hug thrilled. but nothing of being under the sheets, it must be for season 5. Speaking the truth I think a hot sex scene does not match the delicacy of Beckett, they will have to do the scene with great care is not vulgar and the show never appealed to it. The only sex scene I remember was the Castle with his ex-wife, who was actually more funny than hot. I do believe it is time for them to be together. Being together does not mean it will always be fun or easy, I think Beckett and Castle will have many obstacles ahead.
Castle and Beckett looking so adorable in the first pic
ReplyDeleteYup! They are smiling!
DeleteHow can you tell? The pics are tiny!
DeleteYou click the picture, lol
DeleteI'm so excited I can't even... ugh I'd rather fangirl then do my homework. Guess I should get English done :(
ReplyDeleteWrite a persuasive essay on why you should be fangirl-ing instead ;D
Delete"The Most Dangerous Game is a captivating tale, but it is not even a speck of dust in comparison to Castle." sounds like a legit topic sentence.
DeleteYuck. I hate "The Most Dangerous Game." Castle is a kajillion times better. I feel your pain. :(
DeleteYeah it sucks :( My teacher made the mistake of not assigning any assignments until the end of the semester. I procrastinate in the form of fangirling.
DeleteYep, I'm procrastinating too. I have a final on Wednesday that I haven't even begun to study for because all I'm doing if fangirling over Castle! Who needs education when you have much more pressing issues to deal with, anyway? ;)
DeleteRight! If only they understood...
DeleteStill not sure if Marlowe will do this one justice. I know lots are speculating that they will get together or will be close to it, but come season 5, Marlowe will probably just split them up again. After last seasons finale, we all thought coming into this season that things would be looking up for caskett, how wrong were we! I'm trying my best not to get excited about the finale as I don't want to disappointed. Just because cards are on the table, just like it was last seasons finale, doesn't guarantee anything. Just look what happened this season. Next season premier will probably start with them saying they need time to heal from the lies...blah blab blah...just so Marlowe can drag it out another season.
ReplyDeleteI for one have had issues with this season, but still watched every episode. I told myself from the get go that since I started watching it I will watch till the finale. But if nothing is resolved or caskett is being held back some more, for some other stupid reason, I think I will have to gracefully and respectfully walk away. So I will wait and see how season 5 starts, and if it's similar to this seasons premier, I'm officially done with it. No anger, or vengeance, but just because it would not seem realistic and interesting to me anymore. And I would be bored of their back and forth, I already am.
With regards to ausiellos blind item, I don't think it's castle and Beckett. Ausiello loves to troll, he always makes things seem like something it isn't. I wouldnt believe him. Something like this that will get fans crazy, Marlowe will definitely keep under lock and key. He won't give anything away. So if ausiellos knows it, I don't think its them. Marlowe knows how long fans have been waiting for caskett, he will want to surprise us. Anyway just my thoughts.
I agree with you 100%.. AM promised us ebb and flow.. all I have seen is ebb through the season... I don't think whatever they do in season finale.. will change the fact that this season is dull compared to previous seasons.
DeleteSerious? There has been ebb and flow, just not the degree that you want to see. We all need to keep in mind that this is a business and not AM's personal playground to get the fanbase charged up.
DeleteHe is NOT going to make the same mistake as Hart Hanson; he as much said that when the 'called out' HH to get Booth and Brennan together.
I agree with you about Ausiello; no way would he have that level of inside information.
I.Am.So.Excited.
ReplyDeleteI sort of have this feeling that the caskett movement will be in undead again and always will open up with them "hooking up"
ReplyDeleteI am suspicious of that, too, as there seems to be a lot of secrecy surrounding this episode...
DeleteOh my golly! I was watching the 20/20 that's on after DWTS instead of Castle and I just saw a new promo for the finale. I think I just died. Seriously. When Kate said, "I'm finally ready to deal with everything that happened that day" I almost cried. Dealing with some things and moving on to others... I AM READY!! <33333333 I will never ever survive May 7!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteLuckily i haven't seen all the episodes of Castle so I can catch up in the meantime before May 7th
ReplyDelete"Maybe it’s time to take a trip back to the Hamptons now that Spring is in the air. No murder this year, I hope. I need the vacation."
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Hmmmmm.....I wonder if it's possible to get to 3K followers b4 next week's #Castle ep. I have some awesome BTS photos (dangles carrot)
That first pic they both look utterly adorable and happy and in love...trouble is I think it's a behind the scenes shot from the ABC site of Stana and Nathan!
ReplyDeleteI also note they are both in matching blue which couples together always tend to dress alike - that's Kate and Rick obviously.
And I have to agree wholeheartedly with 6.33 PM, I'll be with you walking away in season 5 if Marlowe still hasn't got them together properly and is still telling fans that they will be "laying their cards on the table" - AGAIN.
They trouble is they never pick them up and look at those cards! He's strung this season out on a story arc that I found depressing and lacked any proper pacing (the secrets).
This wasn't so much a story arc more like another giant roadblock to them being together, last season it was Josh and Gina which I didn't really like that much either but in comparison to this season it was stellar.
Marlowe said he had "lots of stories" to tell about them when they got together, well I wish he'd hurry up and tell me them because I'm getting fed up with wondering what the next reason will be as to why they can't be together - probably because they can't trust each other or something...enough please lets just get them together and remove this huge elephant from the room.
I adore the show and Stana and Nathan but I can't enjoy endless stalling with these kind of things like Bones did (which I stopped watching too).
So fingers crossed that Marlowe this time means what he says and he will finally take the plunge - Bones finally did it so can you!
By the time Bones got around to it, it was too late...the chemistry had evaporated from the show for the most part. Also they made their relationship official in a sneaky, off-screen way which was really unsatisfying. They probably would have never made it official if it weren't for Emily D.'s pregnancy.
Deleteanyway I digress...back to Castle:
I agree with you about the story arc being unrealistic this season. Josh and Gina were more believable compared to the secret-keeping & PTSD, but that was mainly because Castle's ILY hadn't come out, so Beckett wasn't confident that Castle was serious about her which probably made her afraid to dump Josh.
What made this season rather unbelievable for me was the fact that Beckett heard the ILY (which sounded like what she wanted to hear at the end of season 3), dumped Josh supposedly in preparation for a relationship with Castle...but proceeded to avoid discussing the ILY for months, even though it clearly meant a lot to Castle. Despite the PSTD, it made Kate seem rather cruel in my view for lying and leaving Castle hanging.
In the mean time, Castle kept silent and didn't say anything more to Beckett for 7 months...? I found that to be a little ridiculous when they had shared so many close moments together in the past.
I've had more sympathy for Castle this season since Beckett never could bring herself to blurt out her feelings thusfar...although he didn't choose the best moment, at least Castle managed to get his point across.
Ah well, since we're on the brink of the finale I'll forgive the writers...I just hope the cliffhanger isn't more relationship angst.
Adjusting Alexis's words, I think I must hold my breath, cross my fingers and wish upon a star... just for the writers to get it right in the finale. I think our expectations are so high, and more importantly, so different, that I wouldn't like to be in MilMar's shoes. Some fans want Caskett to be together, some want them to just hook up, some want them to stay as they are, some want to see passion, others want to see romanticism, others again want action and an explosive cliffhanger (too), some want it light, others want it dark. At the same time they must wrap up a season but also keep us on the edge of our (summer) seats for a probable next season (maybe they just shot two alternative endings?!).
ReplyDeleteWhat I for one wish, now that it really looks like Caskett might be Ausiello's blind item, is that they somehow deal with Beckett's scars, the memory of the shooting and its aftermath. Actually, looking ahead, I want them to share their experience of some crucial crossroads that they have faced. For example, I want Rick to tell Kate why he went to the Hamptons with Gina (end season 2), I want Kate to tell Rick that she had actually opened that door in that hotel room in LA, and I want both of them to tell each other what has been going on "behind the scenes" ever since they met. Of course that can be spread out in an undefined number of episodes, but they really should be picking on these past events. This would make the writing of the whole season and, in reflection, their relationship, the ups and downs, the challenges (DEMONS) and odds (HEAD CASE) they have had to deal with all meaningful.
Sandra
Good job, Sandra, it's ok for me.
DeleteThe fact is that writers are different from one ep to another and it's difficult to have references from ancient episodes, but it would definitely be nice.
I don't know what's gonna happen in the season finale at all but I'm pretty sure it should be great.
PatHyp
I know, but I guess Marlowe has a supervising role, as the show has indeed kept up a couple of themes/phrases/images throughout the season(s),eg. it's (not) enough, partners, have your back, love stories beating the odds, secrets etc.
DeleteAgreed, the finale is definitely going to be AWESOME in its own way, if not in an expected way...
Sandra
I know that the writers are different from one episode to the next..but shouldn't it be the writers' job to watch previous episodes of the show so that they are aware of things like character development and plot continuity?
DeleteI think the writers have done a good job overall so I don't have many specific complaints, but I think it shouldn't be too hard for the writers to incorporate references to previous episodes. If fans who watch the show as a hobby can remember events, then the writers should be able to remember too...lol.
Good job! That's exactly what I think!
DeleteAnd I agree, this season has been dark but I think it's been a good one. People complained a lot about many things but if there's a kiss or something similar in the finale, everyone will change his mind!!!
PatHyp
Peeps that promo is NOT for the season finale-the outfit she is wearing is from Undead again...calm it down
ReplyDeleteYes! The orange jacket tells all :)
Deleteyeah, sure, but it seems peeps are already focusing on the finale... And apparently ABC is, too! They kind of wrapped it all up for this last episode before the finale, which is then said to start "a new chapter". They wisely end this (fake) promo with the finale.
ReplyDeleteCalm down?? - the one thing to do here is "scream like little girls"! roar!
I realize the scenes from the promo is for "Undead Again" and not the finale, but the current episode is supposed to be setting the scene for the finale, so it's understandable that ABC is mentioning both episodes in this promo.
DeleteGiven that Beckett mentions she is ready to talk about her shooting in the promo, it's possible that"Undead Again" may have a mini relationship-cliffhanger at the end that they will resolve in the finale, e.g. Beckett starts a conversation and Castle doesn't know how to respond since he is still hurt...etc.
I'm with 7:04 am...that promo does NOT have shots from the finale...its from next week's episode..
ReplyDeleteof course not, and there's only one excerpt from UNDEAD anyway. But the voiceover is already about the finale at the end..
ReplyDeleteABC promos for others shows are mentioning season finales too, such as "Once Upon a Time", and that show has 3 or 4 more episodes to go before the season ends I think.
DeleteI think ABC is just mentioning finales to get more viewers to tune in.
Priests sometimes also celebrate marriages.;-))
ReplyDeleteI have a nasty feeling guys. What if Beckett tells Castle she loves him, but Castle tells Beckett no?
ReplyDeleteWhat if they can't be together because of something to do with her mom's case and thats Castle's Sacrifice? I really hope i'm wrong.
Castle and Beckett belong together but i'm wondering, given the season finale title, what everyone thinks is going to happen may not be so.
What if it's nothing but a red herring?
Castle tells Beckett he can't be with her but he'll ALWAYS be her partner?
Next season Beckett's moping after Castle, rather than the other way round.
God i hope i'm wrong!
lol i know! :0) i had a feeling also since we are "almost there but never on the money" and thats what keeps us tuning back lol
Deletebut i was thinking in regards to the pics, i also had a feeling that the fire might be at the church, just to make it shocking. like there is evidence that the guy was there and they torch the place. remember in Rise where they said the library or somewhere was burned down and they lost the evidence due to an electrical fire? seems like this is what these guys do, they torch places that are relevant or hold clues.
i was also thinking like someone mentioned before how Gates is IA, her character on 24 was such a badass bad guy that they might do the same thing. seems like all boss NYPD are corrupt. maybe she knows more than we think or she is feeding info; like a mole.
so many cool possibilities, they can go any direction with this!
another thought, nathan fillion had tweeted that they were shooting on the private practice set and he was asking how to recline the bed....we did not see any hospital scenes yet. maybe this is another clue?
what do you guys think? i am making my hubby think with me of possible scenarios and he is just so not involved :p this is why i love coming here and talking with all you great people!
it would be so amazing if they would do big castle episode screening outdoors where all the fans go and watch at night together then discuss
let me know if you have anything to add to my theories
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Yeah we ALL hope you're wrong!
DeleteWhy? It would be so interesting!
DeleteTHat is probably the most realistic theory I've heard about the finale.
DeleteAll the cards will be on the table. Becketts secret is out.
The precinct will be changed forever. Well, everyone at the precinct certainly thinks that Castle has always been head over heels for Beckett. So when Beckett ACTUALLY says what shes feeling (thats a shock in itself) and Castle DENIES her?? I can just imagine Ryan and Espo's reactions now... utter disbelief and probably some confusion and anger.
Then they are going to make a breakthrough in the case, and ALWAYS ends with Ricks secret coming out as their investigating the case and probably getting duped by the bad guys, and the cliffhanger has nothing to do with romance. Its going to end with an explosion or near death experience.
BOO. When will they see that they're going about this all wrong!!???
WHEN THE HELL IS ABC GOING TO RENEW CASTLE FOR SEASON 5 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
ReplyDeleteDon't worry, ABC hasn't officially renewed any shows yet. Castle is on every list as "likely to be renewed," and it was on the list of shows that are guaranteed to be renewed by ABC. There's also a new Nikki Heat, Derrick Storm e books, trading cards, and a board game based on Castle coming out this summer. Castle has also been sold into syndication to TBS (or TNT, can't remember) and you typically have to have at least 100 episodes to do that. Castle hasn't reached that mark yet, so there will be a season 5. Marlowe has been interviewed about season 5, and the finale to season 4 has already been shot. We know there's a cliffhanger, and if it were a series finale there wouldn't be one. On top of all that, Castle is ABC's only crime drama- it's a very popular show that regularly beats Smash and Hawaii 5-0 in it's time slot.
DeleteI don't know how many times this needs to be said for people to get it. Castle isn't going anywhere.
I dont think Castle's sacrifice is Beckett, it might be more in line with His secret. Does he or doesnt he tell her? I dont think he will ger the chance, marlowe hinted and knowing marlowe you can take this to the bank .... His secret will come out at the worst time possible. As a storyteller its the logical step to keep us engrossed! I think it would be right after beckett tells castle how she feels or inadvertantly at a pivotal junction in the case.
ReplyDeleteIf we were to believe that caskett shippers would be happy, marlowe will make sure they know what each other feels.
Cliffhanger: beckett suspended and Gates is the mole for IA. (except only viewers will know that)- Recently gates gave an interview mentioning that she will get prominant character development and screen space in the upcoming episodes and reach a new understanding about castle, hinting positive one.
I do not think Marlowe will repeat last years menu regards to cliffhanger.
No one will be shot
Cards on the table, minus subtext
A caskett development thats justified
I do not wish for them to run off to the hamptons, i would not mind them stay apart due to her suspension or him having to go to Cali to help Alexis or a book tour...whatever ..... I am SURE the viewers would want to miss the beginning of their romance! I am imagining it would be Clumsy!!! They are too much in love for it not to be!!! Trying to stay low key at work and trying to keep it hidden from everyone will be downright hillarious!!!
As for ausiello blind item, I do think it will be Caskett.
However, I do think season 5, yes all of it will be FOREPLAY!! They won't consummate until mid-end of Season 5. Its perfect storytelling, else how would keep the viewers hooked for MORE!!
I also read, the fight on the rooftop Includes Gates.
I really dont think the Cliffhanger would include danger, life threatning situation, or near misses and misunderstanding. I think it will be a SHOCKING relevation (possibly only for the viewers). Could Jim Beckett be involved in this wife's murder inadvertantly. Is that why he took to drinking. Is that why he needs Castle to keep Kate away from it?
Or is Gates, not who we think she is??
Where did you read the fight on the rooftop includes Gates?
DeleteI'm telling you, the therapist is in on the whole thing!! He's using Becketts sessions as a way to get leverage in case she decides to investigate the case again!!! He'll kidnap Castle and break Kate's heart by telling her that he's been looking into the case without her all this time!!
DeleteJK. but wouldnt that be great??
@Kaela i read from a person who posted after watching them shoot that episode. I found it strange that no one mentioned it later. We will have to wait and see whether the eye witness testimony is accurate.
Delete@ annon 2.26 i really do like your theory. Dr burke being involved would be a brilliant angle and would definitely catch the viewers unaware. Except I dont think they will take that route b/c he serves as a inside scoop into Beckettville for viewers. He will be needed in the future as well.
However as I have mentioned earlier, I think the cliffhanger this time will not be danger of physical nature, but purely shock value. We will be left stunned, but unlike season 3 this one would be emotional... Possibly a SHOCKING revelation of some sorts.
This is all great story telling folks, we would be bored to bits if it was all rosy. The element of surprise and at times disbelief is what makes us glued to it every week. So enjoy the ride!
I have a feeling that Beckett won't be angry at Castle because he is trying to solve her mom's case. I think she will be angry because that is putting him in the line of danger and she doesn't want anything to happen to him.
ReplyDeleteDo you guys see how Esposito has the same coffee cup as Castle and Beckett?
ReplyDeleteBeckett hand him her cup to put on those blue gloves to investigate the crime scrne
DeleteThat first picture - holy crap. I think Nathan is seriously the most beautiful man on the planet.
ReplyDeleteIsn't he though?
Deleteheh. yeah, he has the cutest smile. whenever I see it I have to smile too
DeleteOMG! U know what I just noticed?! Am i blind? Maybe I'm blind. ROFL! In these pics they are talking to a african american women. HELLLO?!!!! Thats Montgomery's wife! I'M SLOWWW!!! LOL WOW Blonde moment. hehehehehe anyways i was wondering why Castle looked distressed in that photo. Maybe she says something that leads to his secret coming out right there. Do y'all think he's the one that will tell Beckett his secret or will come out some other way like through Montgomery's wife? Maybe she doesnt know about the file or maybe she did. I could see it either way.
ReplyDeleteOMG - they're in a church.
ReplyDeleteIsn't is obvious????? They're going to tie-the-knot!!!! They're getting hitched!!!! They're going to have a hugh church wedding!!! They'll go on a honeymoon in the Hamptons and make Castle-babies!!! Do you Katherine Beckett take this man.....ALWAYS!!!! Do you Richard Alexander Rodgers take this woman...ALWAYS!!!
Thank you AM....Thank you AM
OMG cute! Review for writer too! I did-
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- Jane :)
Lovely people in lovely pics :) The first one especially.
ReplyDeleteAnyways. I'm hoping we'll get some sneak peeks tonight or tomorrow for Undead Again. It looks like a lot of fun. also nice to see the smiles in the pics, though no doubt the writers will have Castle and Beckett a little warmer to one another now that Limey & Headhunters "ebbs" are over with - if only to make the revelation of Castle's secret blow things up all over again in a bigger way for the finale.
I'm also telling myself that Castle's shirt has a purple-ish hue to it, cos that's Beckett's favorite color, how could she possibly resist??
I guess ABC released the composite promo because it's heading into sweeps shortly, and we'll get more specific promos soon. It's understandable that they'd go ahead and tease viewers with "will a whole new chapter begin?" type stuff in wrapping up the one season and starting the next.
Still not convinced that Ausiello's blind item is Caskett - because if it is, I guess I might feel it is too soon (dammit, mebbe he's right, lol) - just because after all the ebb, I'd hope the flow wouldn't be just falling into bed. Given the glacial pacing of the holding pattern S4 has been, I'm hoping Marlowe holds to his earlier words that he wants Castle & Beckett's choice to be with one another something special.
I'm betting Perlnutter, or whatever his name is, is back to help set up the Joanna Beckett aspect for the finale, since he was with Castle & Lanie when Castle first made his discoveries back in S2. I'm also excited to see how Montgomery's widow features in the story.
I think Caskett will actually talk for the first time in a significant way, but I don't think S4 will finish with them a consummated couple. I think that could be left a dangle for S5. There's a whole lot to cram into the last two eps. It's frustrating the writers decided to pace the season that way, but now we're here, at long last, where things will start moving again.
Here's to a good S4 ending, and plz to gawd I hope the show does indeed return to a sense of fun for S5, as Marlowe has suggested.
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ReplyDeleteAcredito que vai haver uma conversa sincera, e os dois vão dizer o que sentem, talvez um beijo apaixonado e um abraço emocionado. mas nada de estarem sob os lençois, isso deve ficar para a 5ª temporada.
Falando a verdade acho que uma cena de sexo quente não combina com a delicadeza de Beckett, eles terão que fazer a cena com muito cuidado para não fica vulgar e o show nunca apelou para isso.
A unica cena de sexo que me lembro foi de Castle com sua ex-esposa, que na verdade foi mais engraçada do que quente.
Eu acredito sim que é a hora de eles estarem juntos. Estar juntos não quer dizer que será sempre divertido ou fácil, acho que Beckett e Castle terão muitos obstáculos pela frente.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that there will be a candid conversation, and they will say what they feel, maybe a passionate kiss and a hug thrilled. but nothing of being under the sheets, it must be for season 5.
Speaking the truth I think a hot sex scene does not match the delicacy of Beckett, they will have to do the scene with great care is not vulgar and the show never appealed to it.
The only sex scene I remember was the Castle with his ex-wife, who was actually more funny than hot.
I do believe it is time for them to be together. Being together does not mean it will always be fun or easy, I think Beckett and Castle will have many obstacles ahead.