Someone plz upload it to YouTube...ugh..my iPad can't view the videos. :(
Gotta be patient. We put up YouTube versions as soon as they're available. Sometimes that's not always right away.
How spoilery are these clips? So tempted to press play....
the first one isn't really a spoiler but the second is becket and her therapist so yea a little spoilerish
OMG!!! this is great..I love it
My little fangirl heart can't handle this.
oh my goodness i am so SICK of kate being so stupid! why does everything have to be spelled out for her by everyone else?! she STILL doesn't know anything about why castle is mad. why can't she just think back to that day that he changed and just piece everything together?? IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT DETECTIVE KATE USE YOUR BRAIN, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT COMPLICATED.
You realize that the she wasn't aware that Castle heard her in the interrogation, right?
Yes, but when she came out of the interrogation room, she found the coffee on her desk and Espo said Castle had been there. So, I agree, she should be able to figure out that he might have been watching through the double mirror. I think there's more to the conversation with her therapist than what's in the sneak peek. Also, she may not even realize yet what exactly she said during the interrogation, till she thinks about it.
That's what I'm saying though, when my friend is being passive-aggressive towards me all of a sudden, I think back to what happened with us recently and when they changed and I can easily figure out what might have happened. This is something pretty simple if she just took the time to think back to it and piece it together. Beckett is usually pretty smart and I mean she IS a detective so this is her thing. Why she isn't using her brain, who knows.
I don't like the fact they've turned her into someone unable to figure out something this simple because that's what I would be doing looking back and working out when someone changed and what was I doing then - come on it's not rocket science!She's meant to be smart but they make her look silly over this and it takes someone else to get her to help figure out that something is wrong.
I knew it. When Kate says in the preview "oh god" and "what if I waited too long", she doesn't say both of those I this clip, she only says "what if I waited too long" so I think that she realizes at the end of the show after she sees him again, what the root of castles anger is.
hopefully its that and not saying "oh god" cause she gets a call that castles hurt. do want that too and her to run to his side helping him but i want her to realize whats going on when she says "oh god"
Did anyone find the first sneak peek weird? He brought her coffee and he's all smiley at her and she gives him this huge smile ... where's the bad tension?
Well, it's bad because he only went to see her to find out where Slaughter might be. :(But on the bright side, he was nice to her. He didn't make any snide comments about her this time. :)
I actually find this clip kind of funny because she's so glad to see him; she thinks he came there to see her. When she finds out he wants to find Slaughter, she sets down the coffee and starts to walk away. Castle, of course, still believes that Kate doesn't have romantic feelings for him, so he gets all confused then when she's a bit upset about why he's there! That look on his face when he says "Unless that's a problem", cracks me up.
Beckett was thrilled to see Castle since he's been avoiding her lately & she loves him--hence the smile. :) Castle's behavior was more nuanced. He was polite, brought Kate coffee, and asked how she was doing...but it looked like was mostly interested in learning about Slaughter :( . In Castle's defense, he still hurt because he thinks Kate doesn't love him...so he probably finds it difficult to hang out with her.Those 2 crazy kids are so loveable yet clueless...xD
yeah but after their last conversation in The Limey, I would expect her to not says "I'm feeling great!" with super excitement, I mean he is still acting weird. And he brought her coffee? What happened to moving on? Coffee is supposed to be like their morning kiss, right? And they haven't seen each other in days, so I would assume Kate wouldn't be feeling GREAT! I donno, as much as I like this initial joyful reunion, I felt like it was out of place.
I did think it was a little over the top. She was a little too happy to see him but I bet in context it is a lot better. I thought it was a little rushed in the second sneak peek too. I mean she was freaking out. Usually when she's with her therapist she's annoyed but this was like insane! I did like both though! I'm excited to see this all come out! I think this is going to be the episode!
She is feeling good because She is seeing him with her cup of coffee, and She is thinking that castle is retourning to be the "normal" castle. I think it's normal that response
And don't forget that they haven't seen each other for days according to Castle, that's why she's so happy to see him and bearing gifts "coffee" :)
Yes Emily! She was completely "freaking out" at her therapist who keeps such a calm disposition. I got a weird vibe from it. I think she makes it clear in the first clip that she is so glad to see castle, and then gets upset when he's not there to see her. And he just doesn't understand.I believe that when it comes to their relationship, they have both been dumbed down quite a bit. Cassidy
"What do you WANT to do?"KISS HIM!
The way she says "Oh, everything is fine." is hilarious!!!Now do it, Kate. Go for it.
Yeah if Kate doesn't confront Castle about their relationship after this talk with Dr. Burke my brain may explode..lol
Heh, yeah, it's a parallel for when Kate asked Castle how he was doing in the Limey and he said "never better."Read as utter BS by the viewers who know better. She's not fine, really, but was was suddenly doing better when Rick showed up with her coffee. Except this time, I get the impression Kate wanted it to be their "coffee as kiss" like it used to be, whereas Rick was just being thoughtful, like he was in Pandora etc.In 47 Seconds, Rick basically walked away from the coffee/kiss he'd brought for her after witnessing the interrogation; here, Kate essentially tosses the coffee/kiss back at Rick when she realizes he's there not just to say hi to her, but to follow up on his new intrigue with Slaughter.Sure, sure, everything's fine, says Kate. Never better, says Castle. Both lying thru their teeth with an unrequited coffee/kiss in hand.These clips look awesome. Looking forward to this one.
Oh Kate, you're an amazing emotional idiot, thank god for Dr Burke.
>Please, do not feed the trolls when they come<
I seriously just had an orgasm when I saw there were new sneak peeks! TMI?
ummm....ya....just a little....lol
Oh good, so I'm not the only one! ;)
LOL her talk with her therapist was hilarious, never thought it would be comedic in this way, I thought it would be dramatic and depressing like her last talk in 4x09, but I loved this. The way she says "Everything is fine" and she calls him a jackass, it's great! But wasn't it 10 months ago that he told her that he loved her and not 7? At least now we can stop doubting whether she actually heard the ILY or not because at one point, I was doubting that maybe she doesn't remember everything like she thinks she does. I was happy to hear Dr. Burke say "Castle told you he loved you", it was a relief.
I thought it was 10 months too, because time in the Castle universe is pretty much the same as the real world. Hmm... Where did those 3 months go?
Onward to Math!This is episode 21. Lets say each episode is a week Castle time. So that means it's been 21 weeks since Beckett came back to the precinct. A month is about 4.3 weeks.21/4.3= 4.8 months21 weeks divided by 4.3 gives us 4.8 months have passed. Add the 3 months after Kate got shot that she didn't contact Castle and that's a little over 7 months. 4.8+3= 7.8 months.and there's the explanation. Ah math, I hate it but damn if it isn't useful.
Yeah, but remember in 4x01, 3 months past where she didn't call him. So add 3 months to your calculation. So really almost 11 months ago.
Anon 8:16, you're probably right with your complex equation up there ;) I guess the writers aren't counting all those hiatuses we've had to suffer through. So in Castleverse, it's January?? That doesn't seem right...
In order for your calculation to make sense it would need to be January in Castle-universe.That could be possible, but I think it's more likely that the writers forgot about the 3 month time lapse ;)..but the writers may surprise us. If they add a 3 month time lapse before the end of the season then Castle time will catch up to real-world time :).
it could be January in Castle-verse, since they never mentioned Valentines Day this season...:o
That's true, Anon 8:48. Pandora was the closest episode to Valentine's Day, and it was about as Un- Valentiney as you can get. But for the writers to get us back in real time by the Season 5 premiere next September, we'd have to jump 6 months! That's half a year of Caskett exchanging meaningful glances and awkward hand rubbing, people!
Hi... about the timeline-The wedding page of Ryan and Jenny says that it was on January 9, 2012 http://duffyomalleyandryan.ourwedding.com/view/4169583622696318/26002718Same as the date on which the episode "Till death do us part" aired. So uptil then 8 months had already passed since the shooting in the Castle-verse. So, this was infact a big mistake on part of the writers. You'd figure that when it comes to writing the script, they'd pause to figure out how many months it has been ... which really doesn't take long.Are the fans more obsessive about the show than the creators and writers are ? ;)
The therapist looks just a little bit amused at first by this. LOL
Well, from his point of view, one week Kate's talking about her shooting, her mom's murder, PTSD- you know, heavy stuff. Then the next it's Castle this and Castle that, and she's in her teen girl mode. I love the contradiction in her personality, and I can't blame Dr. Burke for being amused. ;)
i love when dr. burke says how long ago was it when he said I love you and kates like "7 months ago, but i wasnt ready to hear that then"...so i take it your ready to hear that now??? :) ;)...
I think the first sneak peek says a lot...I mean that smile, wow castle has to know how much she misses him and cares for him with that smile. And yeah the tension is lesser but I think it's because he has had the being mad phase, and now his anger is lesser and he still loves her, so the smile is just natural instinct. It is sad when her face just falls the minute she realizes he came in for slaughter and not her. The second one is interesting. Her imitation of castle was so funny, loved it. And she is all riled up, she is just rambling on, because she is losing it. Good, she needs to get to that point, and just march right up to him and confront him. Though I'm quite sure nothing actually happens in this episodes. Maybe other than her realization of why he is mad. Personally I think she has no idea because she doesn't even realize what she said in that interrogation, she was so focused on the guy, and clearly very angry. Sometimes you say things, they just come out, and you don't even know you said it. So I don't think it's silly that she hasn't pieced it together yet. It wasn't some planned attack on that guy, her secret just came out, without her realizing it. But I love her scenes with Burke, we do get a lot of insight about her. Anyway looking forward to some sort of truce or friendly exchange by the end. Would love that hospital scene so many fans have predicted, but I think when Nathan tweeted about that bed, it was during the filming of undead again. Not sure though. All the way from Malaysia.
Ummm... The show is supposed to be in real time but in the therapist sneak peek, Kate says it was 7 months ago that Castle told her that he loved her - it was over 10 months ago.
Well, there was also a brief question/discussion on Twitter with Terri Miller about how many years Castle's been with the precinct.Cos the first season was only 12 or 13 eps. So even if it's season four, they've been together for 3-1/2 years? But they wrote Lanie saying 4 years.Personally, teevee shows TARDIS adjust their chronologies all the time, so I don't have a big issue with this. If the show chooses to say 7 months instead of a literal 10, and compress the timeline, it's no biggie for me.
Yes,it's been 10 months since the shooting and 7 months since Beckett and Castle saw each other again after she got out of the hospital.I guess the writers made a mistake, since it was pretty confusing, with the time jump in the season premiere and all that.
Having an internal war with myself over whether I should watch these sneak peeks or not... What to do?! You know what? Screw it. I'm watching them. No regrets.
DO IT!!!!!!!! I considered for about 10 seconds not watching them, but since it's only Wednesday, I know that I wouldn't be able to hold off all the way until Monday. I'm not one for fighting a losing battle.
Lol "everything is fine" just love the way she says it. Does anybody see that Dr. Burke is laughing on the inside when Beckett was freaking out when he asked if the cop was a lady. He's probably thinking take a chill pill
i saw that too! LOL! Kate is showing more of her feminine side. It's funny to watch. LOL
Yes, I thought so too! Are we missing something? 7 months ago would have the ILY happening in October, right? That seems way off!
Maybe it's just an inconsistency in the writing. It's a pretty big mistake, because I thought that the Castle world was in real- time. They were talking about Christmas in December, and the Halloween episode was in October, so I wonder where those 3 months went. I know it must be difficult to stay consistent with a large writing staff- case in point, Beckett's badge number is different in some episodes than it is in others- but come on writers! What's up?
The writers probably calculated 21 weeks of episodes + 3 months = roughly 7 months.Or they just forgot about Beckett's 3 month recovery lol.
i hope kate figures out why castles acting weird...in the american promo she says oh no..and that wasnt in this sneak peek..unless i totally missed it..so hopefully when she says oh no i hope shes saying it because she figured out that castle heard. I just pray that she dosent take this as a sign that castle dosent love her.In a way the and sneak peek calmed me..because at least it possibly could get kate to think about her shooting and help her piece together the reasons for castles behaviour. But on the other side this sneak peek makes me really nervous if kate assumes that castle is moving on (which really is true but she dosent know the real reason behind the reason..if that makes any sense ...?) and decides to not talk to him because she thinks he has moved on. But hopefully shes smarter than that and figures out that castle heard her in the interrogation room..i mean come on shes a detective!All i hope is that this episode has a better outcome in the end than the limey...and castle and beckett are back together episode 22...so fingers crossed that their will be some progress this episode..i doubt kate will say ily till the finale but pllleeaassee let kate figure out that castle knows her secret and have them talk about it...-brittany
LOL Kate with her therapist is hilarious! I love how she imitates Castle "Oh, no. Everything's fine." Haha! It's just so Stana. If you've seen some of her interviews, she does the same voice for the people who want to stall the Caskett ship. ;)
Dr. Burke and Lanie need to team up. Together, they'd have the power to make Caskett happen!
Man, can't even get there own timelines correct.
Yeah, well you can't use the word "they're" correctly, so what do you expect?
@ anon 7:46, it's actually "their". ;)
I know. Iphone hates me.
Careful Beckett, your teen fangirliness is showing...
Ok so when kate tries to figure out what his body language is saying and she comes up with "That he's not their anymore, that he's not ready", that doesn't make since to me. I mean of course WE all know the real reason but putting me in Becketts shoes if I was in that situation, that assumption doesn't make since to me. What do yall think? Someone spell it out for me because I don't see how that can be put together even if Castle is pulling away acting like a jack ass. How can his behavior mean he is not ready when clearly he is "dating" others? (so he can be in a relationship, just the wrong one)Thoughts?
OMG, there not their. Sorry got called out for it and had to reciprocate.;)
Well, I think that by the way she's venting to her therapist, Kate's obviously been going crazy these past few weeks trying to figure out what's wrong with Castle. It speaks volumes that she realizes something is wrong with him and she understands that it's at least partially her fault, though she has no idea what she did. Kate doesn't seem to have considered the fact that Castle may have decided on his own that he doesn't love her anymore. Dr. Burke knows less about the situation than Kate, and far less than us viewers. He was just encouraging Kate to think about Castle in a different way- maybe it's not her fault that he's distancing himself. Maybe it's just Castle throwing in the towel and moving on to the next best thing. I think that explains where the "He's not there anymore," part of it comes from. As far as the "He's not ready ," part, I think that stems from the fact that Castle has reverted back to his old ways, and Kate realizes that he's no longer ready for a commitment. All of Castle's character development during the past 4 seasons has been predicated on the fact that Kate was in his life. Now that he feels he doesn't have her anymore, he's right back where he started. This was emphasized in the Limey when he said he wanted "fun and uncomplicated" back in his life. Kate said it herself, the guy's been divorced twice, and he's still going around with bimbos on his arm, so she can't be sure that he won't leave her as soon as he gets her into bed. He's not emotionally ready for a relationship with her right now, especially because she's the opposite of "uncomplicated." From Kate's POV, I think it's pretty reasonable she would have arrived at that conclusion during her talk with Dr. Burke. I do think she's partially right-Castle isn't ready for that commitment anymore. He does still love her- she was wrong about that, but he's not ready because he's gone back to his playboy ways. He and Kate need to communicate so that they can both be ready for a committed relationship.
yeah that doesn't make sense to me either. i think kate is an idiot and that's why she said that. she always puts the blame back on castle by saying things like "he's not there anymore, he's not ready," when in actuality it more has to do with her not being ready. he already told her that he loved her MONTHS AGO and has done so so sooooo much for her. she still doesn't understand anything.
Anon 8:11- Kate's not an idiot. It goes so much deeper than that. Marlowe is a big fan of subtext, and you have to think outside the box if you want to understand the reasoning behind the character's thoughts and actions sometimes. Read Anon 8:08's comment- it's an effective explanation, and I couldn't have said it better myself.
Anon 8:21- No, I don't think that it's reasonable for her to think that Castle could just go back to "not being ready for commitment anymore." How could he just go back to being that way after all of this time? He wouldn't just go back to not being ready without something big happening. If I'm ready to be with someone and truly love them, I wouldn't just out of nowhere become unready to be with them. He's not a flaky/commitment-phobe type of person and we see that by the way he is with his mother, daughter AND BECKETT. He has been nothing short of extraordinary when it comes to being there for Beckett. After all of her bullshit, he still did so much for her and was by her side always.Beckett just isn't thinking about her faults enough. She never really takes the blame for anything between them. If she would stop acting like the world was out to get her for once, she could probably see what she did wrong and work towards rectifying it but instead everything has to be spelled out for her by everyone else and EVEN THEN she still doesn't see what she did wrong.
I agree totally. He's been there for Beckett from the beginning; sheesh, he offered to hand over $100,000 to help her find info about her mom's killer. Castle is far more ready for a commitment than she is.
She's not blaming Castle; she's answering a direct question: "What do you think he's telling you with his behavior?""He's not 'there' anymore"; "there" being the frame of mind he was in 7 (or 10) months ago, ready to stand beside her always, loving her."He's not ready" meaning he's not ready to wait around forever anymore like it's seemed for the past 7ish months.It's not necessarily that he's reverting; she thinks/says, "He's moving on..." It's nice that Burke tempers that with the possibility of Castle just protecting himself - that maybe he's 'not ready' to put himself out there emotionally (again). But as for, "What do I do?" Beckett, if you seriously do not know the answer to that question, see Lanie.
Exactly, Anon 8:08. What we're seeing is Kate working with her therapist to find possible reasons for and solutions to Castle's behavior. Anon 8:35, you're telling me that Castle is ready for a relationship with Beckett right now? Ah, no. Yes, he's been there for her in the past, but he hasn't been there for her lately, and that has Kate confused. She's just trying to work through everything, because she doesn't have the luxury of knowing as much as we do. As of this moment, Castle is not ready for a relationship with Beckett. Neither of them are ready. First, they have to have an open discussion and admit their feelings for one another. They need to air all the secrets and have an adult conversation and find a way to forgive/accept each other. Only then will they be ready for a relationship. There is nothing standing in the way of Castle and Beckett except themselves. Beckett does realize that she did something wrong ("What did I do?")- she just doesn't know what. Castle is wrong for not admitting that he heard her confession, and for keeping his own secret. You can't blame one or the other. They are both at fault for the current state of their relationship, and they need to find a way to fix it together.
@Anon8:08 and 10:00PM Exactly. She was saying I don't even know what I did. She knows she did something wrong, she is just trying to find out what. Kate is trying to fix things but she can't fix anything if Rick won't tell her. She is trying to work with her therapist, which I'm glad about. Her assuming maybe he's not ready, doesn't mean he doesn't love me. She is confused and from his behavior I would question if he is still ready to be in a relationship too. And of course she thinks he is moving on. Jocinda didn't help. But she's wrong of course. And Rick just completely forgot everything with automatically assuming Kate doesn't love him, and not even telling her or willing to even hear her side of it. I agree that they are both at fault for their current relationship, and both need to fix it. Cant wait to see them hopefully admit their feelings soon. And I just agree with everything anon 8:08 and 10:00pm said.On another note, is anybody else loving frustrated Kate, especially when she mimics ricks voice? I am. And I also love her taking out her frustration on the poor stapler
I'm with the posters on this who said they just don't get why Kate would conclude that he's not ready. That comment makes no sense to me at all. He's been ready for her for 7 months and waiting for longer than that!And yet her first thought is he's not ready? Just bizarre, he's ready alright, the obvious answer from her point of view (not knowing he's found out her secret) is that he's had enough of her sitting around taking him for granted.I do love these therapy sessions, wish we had got more of them but why at the end of them does Kate always come out of them seemingly pretty clueless? God it's irritating.At this rate she and Rick are never going to get together if she still doesn't think he's ready and she doens't know what do to about it, Lanie told her - get moving unless you want him to leave!
Let's get inside Beckett's head for a moment. She's trying to figure out what she did, what happened that is making Castle act like a "jackass". The good doctor points out that maybe it's something she didn't do and brings up the ILY from however long ago. Beckett jumps in with "I wasn't ready to hear that THEN!" Now thinking in the time frame of the past 7 months, Beckett is asked to think about what message Castle's current behavior could be to her. She doesn't actually need to know what triggered the change in Castle; she just needs to try to work out what it means. He isn't "there" anymore, in the constructs of that time frame, means he isn't in the same place he was 7 months ago, emotionally. Not that any of us are after that amount of time, but that combined with the recent behavior change says that his not being "there" (i.e. ready to confess his love, like he was back THEN, when she wasn't ready to hear it), is correspondingly recent. So, what is he not ready for? Well, what was she not ready for? She couldn't handle the ILY (aside from the whole practically dying thing) because she had all sorts of emotional issues going on: the pain of her mother's case, the betrayal by Montgomery, the fact that she was in a relationship at the time which had been having its own ups and downs, and she thought she didn't know how to be in a real relationship. Three months later, she knew she wanted to get ready to be in a relationship with Castle, but she wasn't there, yet (again Mom's case, real relationships, wall, etc.) Castle seems willing to wait, and as time goes on, Beckett feels more ready. Now, she's just waiting for the right moment to confess her feelings for Castle, tentatively trusting he stills feels the same way when lo, a bomb goes off and she starts questioning what she thinks she knows about how Castle feels about her. So, now that Kate IS ready, Castle is not. Possibly NOT not ready to be in a relationship with her or hear that she loves him back, but not ready to be emotionally vulnerable, available at her beck and call. Castle basically told her in 47 seconds that that bomb was a wake-up call; she knows he wanted to tell her SOMETHING; she thought she knew what, but she's been confused since about Castle's behavior. In this context, with Burke's (and Lanie's) insights, she may be thinking he is no longer 'ready' to stand by and wait. Castle is seizing the day, but whether he's moving on or just plain moving without risking his emotions again is for Kate to figure out.Now the thing that scared Beckett the most is happening; her 'friendship' with Castle is falling apart. She's confused, angry, hurt, scared. Part of her probably wonders if he meant that he loved her the way she wanted him to, life hanging in the balance and all; another part of her will remind herself that he came back and stuck around the past 7 months for a reason. As usual, it's a challenging time to be Kate Beckett, especially since the ball is in her court.
I agree with everyone who thinks that Kate's reasoning is realistic. Everything in that area has been said very clearly, so I'll just add this. For those who can't understand why Kate arrived at that conclusion, surely you can agree that everything that Castle and Beckett do as characters has a purpose. The writers only have 43 minutes to tell the story, so every line has a meaning behind it, and every action is for a reason. Kate didn't say that for the fun of it. It's clear that her statement will tie into her actions for the rest of the episode and it will affect her relationship with Castle. We all know that Marlowe is a big fan of subtext, and even though Kate is clearly expressing her feelings in this scene, an understanding of subtext is still needed to understand her motivations for arriving at the conclusion she did. It's necessary to think outside the box sometimes when it comes to understanding Castle and Beckett's actions. That's just the nature of the show, because we can't be in both of their heads all the time.
Beckett is prepping for a trial. Realistically the trial of the suspect from "47 Seconds" shouldn't be happening yet, but this is TV. What if she is preparing for the trial of that case and, in looking back over the events of the investigation, finally figures out that Castle must have overheard her in the box?
OHHHH, I LIKE THE SOUND OF THAT! :DD
Well, it sounds like at least a few weeks have passed since the Limey and 47 Seconds, and a bombing is a pretty big deal, so I think it's reasonable that the trial would be happening about now. I do think Beckett will realize what she did wrong. Do they record those interrogation sessions? Because if Kate was listening back over them, she'll probably realize that Castle may have heard her.
I love the idea of this! I feel like this could be it! If it isn't it should be! That's genius!
yeah I was wondering what trial is she talking about because it's not mentioned in the episode summary. Why would she need to prepare for a trial? Sorry I don't know anything about the exact role of her job when it comes to trials. Unless if she's going in as a witness to something or as a witness expert?
I don't know if this is right, but if Beckett was the investigating officer on a case, and her suspect goes to trial, I think she might have to give a statement regarding evidence she found or answer questions for the prosecution/defense about her findings.
They just gave Beckett a trial this episode so we can focus on the severed heads investigation with Slaughter, and we don't have to keep up with another case. It also gives Castle a reason to stop shadowing Beckett because she's not actually working a case. I'm sure she goes to plenty of trials, but they're always off screen. I'm pretty sure that's all Castle and Beckett do during those Hiatuses we have to suffer through. ;)
oh this episode looks like it's going to be good.
Kevin Hart Voice "Its about to go down!"
was it just me or in the first clip, did it seem that kate and rick were talking as if they spent time apart, she said something along the lines that it was nice to see you again or soemthing, and rick made it sound like because she was working on the trial that she was busy and that they have not spent a lot of time together. i could just be ready way to much into this. i really hope that there is some progress that someone speaks up and says something because i really can't have everything just put into the finale. i hate when shows do that they save everything for the last episode and have all the other episode almost as fillers, not that we saw to much of that. there has been some progress however little, with the secretes coming out and everything. now i think its time to see rick move on from this storyline and focus on what he and kate have to talk about. its time for them to open up to one another and have some kind of realization about where they stand.
yeah, it seems like they haven't been working together for a couple of days... that's what I got from the first one.I don't think we'll get that much. Marlowe himself called the zombie episode a "fun" episode during the "darker" episodes, so I'm not expecting any real advancement. Sadly I think they're holding it all back for the finale.
Castle avoided Beckett quite a bit during "The Limey" so I think he probably just continued that trend in the time leading up to "Headhunters".
gosh... I wished we had seen much more of Michael Dorn during this season. He's so great as Dr. Burke, and in helping Kate see things from a different perspective. Burke's hypothesis about Castle's change in behavior being a way to protect himself "by not taking any emotional risks" is actually pretty accurate for what Castle's doing.
I agree! We need more Dr. Burke as well as the mystery writer poker games. I miss those. :(
Weird comment, but does Stana have a retainer? She sounds like she's talking around something in her mouth...
No, I totally get what you're talking about! I just watched an episode from season 1, and she talked differently back then. I've thought for a while this season that she sounds like she's got something in her mouth while she's talking. I have no idea why, though-her teeth are nearly perfect!
She's Canadian. They all talk funny.:-)
lol, I'm Canadian and we don't talk funny. No I think she might have had a minor nose job done over the seasons and her voice changed because of it. Or she might have had some throat surgery or something.
stana katic was born in canada and spent some time in canada over the years but a majority of her life she lived in illinois and chicago not canada.lol its so funny how they say we talk funny cuz we are canadian.
also her voice may have changed because she had her teeth done many actors get artificial teeth put in or caps to give them perfect smiles and must than wear retainers or mouth gaurds to make the teeth set properly
Anon8:44- Stana definitely had a nose job, but it was before Castle. On YouTube, there's part of an episode of ER she was in, and she looks really different. I think she probably has been wearing a mouth guard or something lately because this isn't the first time I've noticed her voice. And no, it's not because she's Canadian. It's not the way she's pronouncing words, it jut sounds like she's got something in her mouth when she's talking.
I don't hear any difference. She just plays her voice higher when she is in that scene as she is meant to seem really flustered and confused, and also a really typical girl hurt by a boy. I don't think her voice is actually different.
Lol. It's not a Canadian thing, for sure. It's more of a "headgear"/retainer thing and it's not in every episode that I hear it... I'll try to figure out what other episodes it happens in...
dudes i think you'll find it's called EMOTION, surprising as it may be to some of you, people's voices actually change in register, pitch, tone etc. when they are experiencing different emotions-Stana is acting, and rather brilliantly at that. Also as far as I'm aware Stana don't have veneers, she had like one crooked tooth fixed, but she wouldn't need a retainer for that at least not for any extended amount of time
No, it's not the emotion in her voice that's making it different. It's almost like she's talking with her mouth full, but more subtle than that.
YOu guys do know that Nathan Fillion is Canadian as well, so if she would have a problem speaking, he would as well. But he doesn't so all your theories are wrong. Let's just try to focus in what these sneak peeks suggest
Loves me some Dr. Worf.
I tried so hard not to watch these...but I didn't even last 5 seconds....but that's it for me! No more sneak peaks!!!
sorry, that's "PEEKS"!!
Sure, you say that now, but wait and see what happens when we get another sneak peek. I know I won't last even 5 seconds. ;)
Hope to god that something will actually physically happen in this episode... Honestly was not impressed by the lack of any actual progress whatsoever in the last 2 episodes, but still (somewhat foolishly) I have high hopes. :)
Did anyone else feel like when Michael Dorn said "what do you want to do?" to Beckett it was in kind of a sassy tone of voice..LOL!
This 5 episode arc is killing me....and I don't like Beckett to think He isn't ready.....but hopefully we'll get an amazing finale,like Nathan and Stana promised.They promised It will be an 11-14 on a scale from 1-10 so I'm going to try to keep that in mind...
Okay. Atleast they are getting SOMEWHERE. The last few episodes, there was ABSOLUTELY NO PROGRESS and I guess all of us are disappointed. If Beckett knows that Castle is "pulling away" then why doesn't she make a move. She needs to make one fast, in order to keep us happy! From every sneak peek I am just like, "Ooh can't wait!!", but there is nothing interesting in these episodes. I am kinda tired of wishing that they would get together. Let's see what AM has for us this episode.
When I saw "keep us happy," in your post I read it as "she needs to keep her puppy!" Lol, it's true. Kate needs to make a move to keep her Castle puppy, because right now, he's a stray searching for a new home.
Sneak peek 2 reminds me of back in Rise when Kate only went back to see Rick because she needed something. Now, the tables are turned an Rick's only going to see her because he wants to know where to find Slaughter. It's cool how Marlowe does those little callbacks/foreshadowing. I also love the use of the coffee symbolism in that scene. The look on Kate's face when he comes bearing two cups is just so happy, and she accepts the coffee. But when she realizes he's not there to see her, she leaves the coffee on her desk and walks away from Castle. :(
Yes that's why I loved it, I always hated the fact that she went back to him but you could have been cynical and say whe only went back after 3 months at that point to get the files she wanted info out of him. And I just loved the turnaround here - now he's doing it to her and she's clearly upset hence she suddenly doesn't want the coffee anymore like it would give her a bad taste to drink it.So now she knows how Castle may have felt being used like that - even if that wasn't her intention at the time.I love it when they reverse it and it's Rick this time calling all the shots and she's having to react to it.I just like that Rick has the upper hand here for once.Made me laugh and cry and the same time. Man I just wish these two would talk!
Dude, she put the coffee down and walked away.I wish they would just talk it out already, they were having the same problems last season, he called her on it and then she practically kicked him out of her apartment.
She TOTALLY kicked him out of her apartment :)
I think that Castle has been around women for too long, because he's acting just like one. Being a woman, and once a teen girl, I've had the misfortune to experience Castle's passive aggressive and slightly manipulative behavior- only it was coming from my teenaged peers. Actually, never mind. Adult women do that, too, now that I think about it. Some people just never grow out of it. Anyway, my point is that Beckett, being a woman, is bound to figure out exactly why Castle is behaving the way he is. And also as a woman, she probably won't confront Castle once she figures it out. She'll sit on that little tidbit of information until this whole delicate house of cards blows up in both their faces. And then they'll end up in the principal's/Captain's office and be forced to hug it out.
The sooner they have sex, the better.
whom - object of a preposition
@anon 11:53Richard Castle, is that you lurking?? :)
Well, first time commenting in a rambling-sort-of way, coz I think I have said this before somewhere on this forum, I feed off other people's comments waiting for the next episode. So, thanks Guys!!Well, for all the backlash this season has been getting from all the die-hard fans ... about there not being enough motion, I think I have been able to enjoy it. I like to believe that I am a die-hard fan too. I watched like the entire season 1 and season 2 DVDs already waiting for this episode (I'm graduating in a couple of weeks, so got nothing else to do). Even the littlest thing, Beckett holding Castle's Hand, Beckett being love eyeballs over him (TOW the Tiger ... friends fan here), Beckett's look in the bank to find that he survived ... MOSTLY BECKETT STUFF ... has brought me some kind of excitement that made me squeeze out a little pee involuntarily. Sure - I too have been frustrated with the childish way these characters have been behaving lately, but don't people do that, like ever ? For a fictional television show to have been able to put me through all thoses emotions totally pays off for me. God, the way I've seen people be crazy and stupid (and cause someone called Beckett one) and idiotic ... its not hard for me to believe that these two would just not deal with it in the most mature way. Love does that to you sometimes. And kudos to Marlow for tapping into that... he's become a puppetmaster of sorts for the fans. He might not be the best storyteller ever but he has taken much advantage of anything 'pop' to make the show work. Maybe more on that later...Continuing in reply…
So the season the way I see it - It didn't begin in the calmest of ways possible (too less?) ... The surgery, the secrets, the Smith character, the beginning of PTSD for Beckett, the therapy sessions, lot of intense drama, really. It pretty much set up the season for one pretty huge arc. It wasn't always dealt with directly or frequently ... but when has the show ever done that? ... the use of subtext shadows that. And I'm better with the subtext. Too much of dealing with things directly and you're forced to think of more, smaller-story arcs to fit into the season. Maybe its just lazy for AM, but I'll make do with what I have. The way I see it... AM's only major fault is that he has written two awesomely wimpy characters. For more times than I can count, these two have chickened out of telling the other person that they are bothered by something the former has done. Take the first sneak peek here for instance. Castle asks, "If that's not a problem?". What did Beckett say? "No." .. Promptly. Oh come on ... you know you're going gung-ho crazy and freak out at the shrink's office later... but AM has made us believe that that is why the shrink is paid. And it is not out of character ... they've done this a bazillion times. We know that she is ready to hear the "ILY" now.But somehow, apart from the occasional missed chances for the audience, I think the progression of the season has made sense to me. Beckett needed to heal to realize that she is ready for a commitment and not be all about her mother's case and her job. "Kill Shot" was just the kind of emotional kick that Beckett needed to want more out of life. And she definitely needed to be stupid before getting together with Castle. She couldn't be the same closed-off girl from season 1 AND be in a relationship with Castle. She isn't just a control-freak ... she is broken ... aren't we all? Also for the balance of Karma in the show ... she needs to go through the same longing that we've seen in Castle for far too long. On the other hand, again for the balance of storytelling ... Castle needs his secret to blow up in his face. It's not that the episodes are pathetic, save for the occasional WTF moment - Beckett calling the stupidly handsome titular Limey. WTF?!!! Its the wait before each episode that kills us. We cannot wait to know what happens next. For some lucky bastard who'll be watching this on DVD for the very first time.. it'll be a hell of a ride. The thing is that the show has taken on this serialized format for this last run of episodes. Makes you want more... the same as what HIMYM fans are going through this season. Well we have 3 more episodes to go before the fade out to black/white. I am expecting fireworks in the last two episodes, not in Headhunters. But a previous comment about Beckett going over the recording of the interrogation to realize that she blurted it out ... that was a genius comment!!I think this comment has pretty much let my frustration out for now. :Sighs:PS: Please stop with this Anon@XX:XX crazyness, you could infact build a nice community over here if you could associate comments to a profile.
I loved your comment about the lucky bastards who will watch the Season 4 DVD all in one day. But on the other hand, I think all the Castley goodness at once would cause me to spontaneously combust out of pure joy. Small doses each week is probably the safer way to go. Your comments about Castle and Beckett make sense, too. BTW, I made the comment about Beckett listening to the recordings, so thank you very much for calling me a genius. ;) That brings me to my next point, which is the anonymous thing. It's not that I don't want to put my name on my comments, but one of the main reasons I come to this blog is because I can just make a comment without having to sign in and remember a screen name and a password. This is the only site I've found were you can do that. Other sites make you put in an email address, and then you get tons of junk mail/spam, and then you forget your password and then you regret making your screen name something stupid yadda, yadda... Nevertheless, I'll try to remember to sign my name after my comments now to make it more personal. Thanks for venting your frustrations! -Lindsay <3
It's true most of the "Caskett" scenes were "Mostly Beckett stuff", hand holds, smiles, love eyeballs. Stana is really good at this. She's so expressive.I would love to see more from Nathan. He's awesome but he needs to work on that. Maybe next season where they'll be together and he will be all romantic…
Hi Lindsay!About the logging in thing - You can log into the blog using the 'Blogger' profile of your Google account, or any other profile that they offer that you already possess. I've only signed in once and it works like a charm. I'm also slightly prone to forgetting passwords ... but most likely will not forget my Google account details. It makes it easier to follow the blog. So much so that I've hung around new posts waiting for someone to start posting comments for several minutes.
@Soho You realise, that it's not how Nathan wants it, it's how his character is written/directed, right? Because Caskett stuff is surely monitored carefully by the TPTB, and actors are only responsible for how it comes through when it's written/directed to be there. If Castle is written this season as cautious/oblivious/indifferent than it's how Nathan has to play it. Last year people said there's no Caskett stuff from Beckett and some blamed Stana.
Could anyone write what is said in those sneak peeks, please? For those who are not English, American, it's easier to read than to understand, most of time.That's very kind of you.Just remember that if you want an happy ending, these "bad" eps needed to be there to stop this "moonlighting".
K, I'll type it out. Gimme a few minutes. ;)
Sneak Peek #2Beckett: "Hey, Castle. What are you doing here?"Castle: "I just haven't seen you in a few days. Thought I'd drop by and see how you're doing."B: "Thank you. That's so sweet. Um, I'm doing great, actually. The trial prep is going really well. I've been getting home at a decent hour and- It's great to see you."C: "It's good to see you, too. Hey, listen. Do you know anything about this gang cop named Slaughter?"B: "The severed heads homicide, that's why you're here?"C: "Well, no. I mean, just since you're busy prepping for the trial I just thought I'd look into this Slaughter guy... just get a sense of who he is for the background research, the, the... Unless that's a problem?"B: "No, not a problem."C: "Great! So, where would I find him?"B: "Wherever the body is?" *Castle mouths 'wherever the body is'*End Scene
Sneak Peek #3Beckett: "I thought that the two of us were actually getting closer, but now it seems like he's just pulling away."Dr. Burke: "Have you asked him why?"B: "Yes! And he said 'Oh, everything's fine.'"DB: "What makes you think it isn't?"B: "Because he's acting like a complete jackass! He shows up at the precinct with these bimbos hanging on his arm, and now he's running around with another cop!" DB: "Is this other cop a woman?"B: "No! No. What? Why would you even ask that? That's not even the point. The point is I don't understand why he's acting like this. I mean, what did I do?"DB: "Well, maybe from his point of view, the question is what didn't you do?"B: "What? What do you mean?"DB: "When you were shot, Castle said that he loved you. How long ago was that?"B: "7 months ago, but I wasn't ready to hear that then!"DB: "But what do you think he's telling you with his behavior?"B: "That maybe he's not there anymore, that maybe he's not ready?...What if I waited too long?"DB: "You weren't waiting, Kate. You were healing."B: "Yeah, but then in the meantime, he's moved on."DB: "Or he's protecting himself by not taking more emotional risks."B: "So, what do I do?"DB: "What do you want to do?"End SceneI hope this helps!
Well, thanks a lot!!! That's really, really nice!!! If you got something to do, one day, with french, just call me...I'll be your man!!Have a good day.PatHyp
Thanks, PatHyp, I'll keep that in mind! ;)-Lindsay
DR. BURKE I LOVE YOU
What trial is kate prepping for?
The bombing in 47 Seconds?
I love these scenes with Dr Burke. The Kate we don't normally see comes out fidgeting, making voices imitating Castle, asking for advice, getting insecure...and showing that she's more afraid of her feelings than of a guy aiming a gun at her in an alley. NOTE FOR DR. BURKE: Tell her to tell him already. We know that he know that she knows so... tell her to let him know.
i love the 3th sneak peek so much! and in the 2de her kinda jalousy... awh man, why doesn't she have sooooo manny Emmy's for best actrice yet?
Good question. Castle is so underrated. :(
Thanks Anon 12.04 AM and everyone else for the hard work on the transcripts, much appreciated.You know what gets me about Kate's therapy scene?Her total self absorption and lack of empathy for what Castle has been going through.She calls him a jackass for his recent behaviour - okay fair enough.But Dr Burke asks her the not unreasonable question what DIDN'T YOU DO Kate?And for me that's just the point, she's been doing nothing, not a thing to help him through this either. I haven't seen enough of her therapy session this season or recurring issues to feel that much sympathy I'm sorry to say, Killshot was too long ago, some reminders during the rest of the season could have been beneficial in my view. She gives me the impression in this scene that she simply has NO IDEA that Rick might have a life outside hers, that he might not just be willing to hang on until the earth implodes for her to decide to get off her walls and actually tell him she wants him to be hers and that she loves this man. Does she not realise that he's not a machine but flesh and blood too? She clearly just expected him to put all his hopes and dreams and sexual needs (lets be honest here) on hold while she spent her time in therapy and musing about life, love and everything else presumably to herself until she suddenly started talking to Lanie a few weeks back.Well Rick had news for her and she clearly didn't like the message he sent her. That's tough, she needed to be sent it hard and boy has Rick been telegraphing it - 7 months is long enough to keep silent and leave a guy hanging with just a smile, a hand rub and a shoulder bump to be going along with. She's clearly angry that he's suddenly not doing what she wants anymore, he's upset the natural order of her world that she's enclosed herself in. I like that she's angry, because it shows to me she's scared about what she may lose - trouble is she never had it in the first place which is so sad for her and for Rick.I'm still confused about what she wants though, she doesn't seem to know either! She still seems to be floundering about asking everyone but the man she should be and when the shrink asks her at the end she still seems unaware of what to do. Come on girl I can tell you what will happen if you sit around and do nothing - he will leave, he's already as good as left!So I could give her some gal advice not medical - get the guy by the arm, drag him kicking and screaming into a PRIVATE place where no one can interrupt you, kiss the life out of him to shut him up (first) and then tell him to keep quiet whilst you speak, tell him you love him, tell him to stop being a jackass, tell him you're sorry that you kept him waiting as long as you did and then GET A ROOM.Problem solved!I liked the coffee scene too when she's so happy to see him and then she realises he just came to her for info and her face (Stana does great girly SO happy to see you sweetheart faces) drops and she no longer wants the coffee and quickly wants to leave him. And he's acting a little confused at her reaction (because he thinks she doesn't care). Good work Stana and Nathan in that scene.
Instead of Beckett being completely selfish and not realizing Castle might ever want to move on, maybe she is confused because of why it is happening right now. Right at the moment she was ready to move forward--almost exactly at that moment--was when Castle all of a sudden changed. She knew he was going to say something in the conversation in 47 seconds when he says, "So, I've been thinking" and she was ready for it. You can tell this because she even asked him again what he was going to talk about and he blew her off, and then she asked him to hang out and he blew her off. In that episode with the art thief she seemed ok (hurt but understanding) when thinking that maybe Castle wanted/needed to move on before she was ready. She even went the extra step to tell the woman that he was a stand-up guy. I bet what's really getting to her is what she said in the very beginning of this scene, that she thought they were getting closer but then suddenly he started pulling away. It's not as much that she's ignorant of anything to do with him or being completely selfish, it's just that she felt they were getting a rhythm together and then in a second it's totally out of whack.Or, maybe I don't want to think she's the one who's an immature, wreckless, self-centered jackass ;)
Perfect you said it.. I am tired of waiting... I don't mind if they ended this episode like s3x21.. that ending was good enough...
"Or, maybe I don't want to think she's the one who's an immature, wreckless, self-centered jackass ;)"LOL, just coming back to say yes I agree with this!So okay I admit that I forgot when she let Serena almost get her foot in the door because she realised that she had no right to stop Rick dating but even Kate is not that cruel she had to that really.I get that she's scared, I get that she's vulnerable and I get that she doesn't want to screw this up with Rick but she's offered him precious little these last 7 months (I thought it was 10 actually) and it's all about HER, she never seems to sit down and think what is my waiting around doing to this guy emotionally? I realise the therapy session is about her but would it hurt to have her show that she understands the fact Rick has a life too? He has a family, he has a life - a life he is putting on hold (yes it's his choice) and she seems to just accept that's how it should be.I know if it was me I couldn't keep any guy hanging like this without talking to them about what was going on with me and keeping them in the loop - you only get one life and it seems criminal to me to allow someone you supposedly love just waste it sitting around waiting.But I get your point that may be she was ready to spill just when bad timing intervened. I'm not trying to blame Kate for everything here but it's just how she comes across to me very selfish in that way.
Everything that you just said - ditto.
It was kind of a heartbreaking scene. But i'd rather focus on the good side of it. I loved how she was all smily, flirty and positive at the begining. Plus Castle was kinda nice this time. Nearly gone back to normaland i loved how pissed she is at her therapist office. So funny when she did that Castle impression and called him a jackass… She is so READY for this. She wants this. Maybe as much as we shippers do…So from what i've seen, it's overall positive. I'm not waiting for a kiss in this episode (what a big lie, i'm always expecting one), but at least a sweet caskett moment, a smile, a simple hand holding, an elevator or another coffee scene, an "always" thing… PLEAAAAAAAASE Just a hint that they're back on trackIt's gonna be good anyway… Can't wait til tuesday (for me)
In an interview Stana said the season would finish great 12.759 on scale of 1-10.. but I don't see it.. does anybody know how this will happen with just 3 episodes to go..
No, of course we don't know how it's going to happen. That's the fun of it. But Stana is the Queen of all things Caskett, and we know we can trust her, so just enjoy the ride.
LOL, we wish we did though..
ahhh! from a woman's POV, i feel sorry for Beckett. BUT she needs to confront Castle already. I also blame Castle for acting inappropriately lately. Lanie should plan a party and lock these 2 in a room, and talk, where no one interrupts them!I know Beckett is this tough and smart woman but I wanna see a drunk Kate too, especially Lanie mentioned that she can drink!
luuurrrrve Michael Dorn!!!!!!!Want more! Gimme more!
I love the way the therapist is looking at her like girl you need to get a grip as she's acting out all over the place!You can almost see him rolling his eyes when she still can't seem to see what's in front of her. I love this guy but I just wish we had seen more of this kind of thing spaced out over the season so we could know more about what was going on with her and how she truly feels about Rick. I don't want to hear that she's seeing a therapsit off screen from Marlowe I want to SEE this sort of thing on my screen, it doesn't have to too many times but after Killshot we've had nothing until now.Just seems a shame that all this is being packed into a few episodes at the end but to I realise a lot of people like that so fair enough.As for what she should do - I'll give her a big clue.TALK TO THE GUY.
Plz some1 explain to me wat trial is kate prepping for? Does that beckett wont have any case to solve in this epi?
It's too early to tell exactly what Kate is prepping for...a reasonable guess is the trial is related to the bomb attack in "47 seconds".The "case" Beckett is working on this time isn't a murder--instead, it's the mystery of Castle's odd behavior ;). It's possible Kate may get involved in Det. Slaughter's murder case, to help out Castle.I like the theory that Kate might find a recording of her interrogation in "47 seconds", and realize Castle overheard what she said. I don't think it will actually happen in the episode...but it's still a cool idea. :)
I dont like when they make Beckett so dumb. I mean she is the best detective right? She has still no idea why Castle acting like that? If someone is tired of waiting his behaviour is different, not sudden, not 180 degree reversed, its process when someone is giving up. She should know from cases that usually something happend if someone behaving like that. She should realize this when Rick resigned from interview suspect in Limey, that there is something terrible wrong with him, because Castle who she knows would never resigned with this.
I also thought it stupid that she said he was drifting away to the shrink as if this has been a gradual thing. NO Kate it's not been slow, one day he was fine and the next he was giving you looks that could kill !For him to have such a massive change from doting Rick following after her every word to cold and uncommunicative - something major has happened and she should be able to figure it out, he's only been acting this way literally a few weeks.As a detective you think she could have solved the Rick case by now! I agree this story arc over her secret has made her look totally dumb and confused to me. No one suddenly becomes that emotionally dense.
Not only does it dumb her character down it makes her look so incredibly self-centered. But then honestly the whole keeping of her secret makes her look like shes only thinking of herself and he'll just have to wait until SHES ready. They've really made her look like his feelings and his needs don't factor into her thinking at all. And I hate that - Beckett is better than that.
But that's just the point, isn't it? Because Kate was NEVER really emotional sharp when it comes to her own personal life. She is a great detective, she uses her intellectual skills to crack those cases but as much as she has empathy for the victims and the people who are left behind, she isn't emotional involved in them. So the rational, analytical side of her wins out.Now look at how she behaves when it comes to cases where she is emotional involved - Royce' death, Montgomery, especially her mom's case - in those cases she doesn't look right, she doesn't look left, she just bullies her way through all obstacles, even if it means her own death. To describe it poetically - she thinks with her heart, not with her head.And it's the same here, she doesn't look at the puzzle pieces, she just listens to what her heart says and right now her heart says "I'm too damaged to deserve to be loved by this guy" and it says "He is pulling away and I don't know why." In the end she won't have a choice but act because no matter what, if she doesn't act she will lose him for sure.
Anon 6.34, I totally agree with you. I don't get why some fans are so upset with Kate and saying her character is dumb. I think the way she is handling it is really believable. You can see her struggle, she really wants to fix it, she just doesn't know what went wrong, I feel sorry for her. She isn't like most of us, where we can sit and think and rationalize. She has had to deal with a lot more heartache, and she has somehow managed to live in that shell, where emotions are not dealt with. This is the first time, she is really feeling everything just coming out, she looks overwhelmed, but this is good for her. This will help her realize just how important Rick is to her. On another note, castle has still not been renewed for season 5. Does anyone know why? I'm a little concerned. They are already filming the finale, I mean doesn't the finale really depend on if they have a season 5 or not. I assume the ending will be very different for season finale and a series finale. Series finale won't have a cliffhanger right. Just wondering.
I wouldn't worry about renewal yet, because ABC hasn't renew any show.
I think that along with the Season 5 renewal, they should make Nathan sign an agreement that he will spend 2 months at a weight loss clinic over the summer. Chris Noth had to lose about 25 lbs for his role in the "Sex and the City" movie, Alec Baldwin recently lost 30 lbs. It takes a commitment and effort. I love Nathan, but man....his weight is really distracting. And no, it's not just about a 41 year old man gaining a few lbs (41 is relatively young)...he is way, way overweight.
OK, I am "way, way overweight". John Goodman is "way overweight". There's no chance Nathan Fillion is "way, way overweight". Speaking from an insider point of view ;)
ABC won't officially announce renewals until they have made decisions about all or most of their shows. Since they are planning to announce all their renewals at the same time, the lack of renewal at this point is not a reflection of Castle's performance. Once ABC assesses the performance of their newer shows, like Scandal, Missing, or GCB, they'll announce renewals.There's no need to worry--Castle is a solid performer in its time slot, so it's not in any real danger of getting canceled. :)
No, John Goodman was obese, but since he's lost about 90 lbs over the past 3 years, he is at a good weight now. Nathan Fillion is way, way overweight. Just because we all love him as an actor, it doesn't mean we need to make excuses for him. He's the leading man on his own show; he gets paid a great deal per episode. He needs to lose about 30 lbs and I think his bosses should make him agree to that.
Anon 6:50, I don't get why people are seeing Kate's struggle as her being dumb or blind. She is neither of those things. She is someone who has been crippled emotionally by traumatic events and really struggles to let people get close to her. Everything she's experienced in her relationship with Castle is new to her and she is doing her best to sort it all out. I think how she's dealing with things is very realistic, albeit playing out on a heightened plane of reality because this IS a tv show, after all. I'm enjoying watching her lose control over her emotions and seek out the counsel of both Dr. Burke and Lanie. It's great to see her quit holding it all in and actually share her fears with people she trusts. I think having her confide in Lanie was HUGE. Yes, she's been talking to Dr. Burke but he's removed from the situation...he's part of her life but not, you know? Lanie, however, is very much part of her life and isn't kept in this private little box. The fact that she went to her for advice and encouragement shows how ready Kate is to deal with this situation head-on.Anyway, Castle is going to be renewed. It's never been a show that's been flagged as "on the bubble" or "likely to be canceled." Shows like Body of Proof have been marked as such and are, therefore, not in good shape. ABC wouldn't take a show that's consistently been on the "likely to be renewed" list (i.e. Castle or Grey's Anatomy) and suddenly axe it. There was a preliminary list of shows to be renewed that came out 2 weeks or so ago and Castle was on that list. So, no worries. Also, AWM has already made reference to storylines for next season so, though no official renewal has been given to any shows yet, he very likely has been told to plan for S5 by network execs. In addition, Castle was the #1 drama on Monday nights the past 2 weeks (this past Monday not included). It regularly has twice the number of viewers as Smash and usually edges out or basically ties with Hawaii Five-0. Mondays at 10pm is a tough time slot and Castle performs well consistently! :)Like Anon 8:30 said, ABC rolled out 3 "big" new shows recently and is likely just waiting to see how they're performing before deciding what to do with them. I know the fate of Body of Proof and possibly even Private Practice depends on how well Missing and Scandal perform. So, ABC needed to give those shows a few episodes to see if they'll roll the dice and renew them/cancel BoP and PP or keep things as is (i.e. renew PP and/or BoP). They will likely announce their full fall line-up at the Upfronts which take place in May.
Anon 8:34...I agree. In fact, I'll go one step further. If Fillion doesn't lose weight, I think they should write him as being injured and in a coma and bring on a new lead. Someone who actually fits the part of a ruggedly handsome, dashing crime novelist. A certain percentage of people tune in for the eye candy. Shallow perhaps, but true. The fatter Fillion gets, the less those people will tune in. He's beginning to look like William Shatner!!!
Hahaha...let's get a new lead...and then watch this show get cancelled faster than anyone can say William Shatner. I don't get this idea that people think this show can work without Nate and/or Stana. She's not carrying a show by herself, and neither is he. This shows works because of the two of them.And I agree, Nate should drop some. But this bringing in new lead stuff seems extreme to me. The show would lose well over half of its fanbase.
Nathan is still eye candy to me - and I seriously doubt I'm alone in that! But without him I would never tune in again - Stana or no Stana - I love her but the show is called 'Castle' for a reason.
LOL, wtf. No fan of Castle would ever suggest that, it's just ridiculous.
Stana or no Stana? Without Stana I would never tune again. Castle is very important, but Stana too.
This is ridiculous. Without EITHER of them, there won't be a show. It's their chemistry that drives the show.But on another note, I would love to see the ruggedly handsome writer from earlier seasons again. I had a massive crush on him, but now? Eh. He's slimming down a bit though. I hope by next season he's back into shape.
Those two scenes were GREAT! Too bad Kate can't bring Lanie to one of her of her appointments.....or better yet bring Castle!
I agree, I liked their choice of sneak peeks.It fleshes out the story without giving away too much.My only fear is that the second sneak peek occurs near the end of the episode & there won't be much time for Kate to reconcile with Castle.I know C&B won't discuss their relationship until the finale, but I am finding it hard to believe that Beckett and Castle will want to team up again by the end of this episode...they both look so heartbroken. I think something really positive will need to happen between them for it to be believable that they're working together in "Undead Again" since Castle seems to want to run from Kate every chance he gets....I am wondering if Castle & Beckett simply end up working together by accident in the next episode, or simply because Castle ends up being fascinated by zombie-related subcultures? I am getting the impression that Castle has lost all hope of a relationship with Kate, and he mostly drops by out of curiosity to ask how she is doing. Kate will really need to do something drastic to restore his faith in her! :OI am confident the finale will resolve these issues, but I will be a little discouraged if the writers don't repair C&B's relationship a little in this episode...switching from despair to secret-revealing to love over the course of 1 or 2 episodes sounds like an emotional roller coaster.
Will there be any more sneak peeks? Usually they give us 5 sneak peaks. Who wants more??
Ok, just got back from Bermuda and couldn't wait to check out these sneak peeks. Some thoughts: a) I love that Kate is kinda coming apart at the seams in Dr. Burke's office. She seems jumpy, frantic...definitely unnerved and spiraling a bit. It's nice to see her freaking out just a bit...I hope she takes that to Castle...I'd love to see the two of them have it out before season's end. I suspect they will and wind up having angry/relieved/I totally love you sex in the season finale. b) The scene where he brings her coffee is interesting. Again, we have a too chipper Castle showing up at the 12th. Beckett is super upbeat, too. To me, it's just more of each of them trying to keep up appearances and not show their cards, you know? I thought it was really telltale that, after Castle tells Beckett he's interested in shadowing Slaughter for a bit, she puts down the coffee he brought her. She accepted it so gratefully and enthusiastically at first...I think seeing him there, coffee in hand, filled her with hope that things are getting back to normal...then, of course, she realizes the main reason he's there isn't really to see her and get back to work after all. Putting that coffee down is her way of showing that he's let her down...again. Le sigh.I'm really glad to see Dr Burke back in this episode. I'm so curious about what happens after he asks Beckett what she wants to do. I'm hoping she actually gives him an answer and we're not left hanging as the screen cuts to commercial. I want her to say something like, "I want to tell him how I feel. I want it all out there." I hope she starts taking Lanie's question "What DO you have, exactly?" into consideration and realizing that she really has NOTHING to lose if she tells him and he rejects her (duh, he won't). It would be great if Dr. Burke would kinda reiterate Lanie's point that she really doesn't have anything to lose...not at this point where she seems to be losing him by staying silent, so why not speak up?These final episodes are going to do me in, I just know it.
You know I was thinking abou that therapist scene and especially her Rick imitation "oh everything is fine" I think it is very telling about them. Kate when comes close to the heart is very emotionally, you can see that she almost exploded LOL she is annoyed that its hard to read Castle, she is pissed that he is calm and cold. I think what Rick doing is an act, act to get her reaction. The scene from Pandora where they are sitting at a chess table in the Brooklyn Bridge Park is very telling. She looks around and is nervous. He is focused and playing chess.
That's a really interesting observation. So, when Castle gets emotional, he becomes a little like Beckett--focused, serious, and determined, (& occasionally a little aggressive!).When Beckett gets emotional, she alternates between feelings of giddiness, panic, and frustration... so basically she turns into a 9-year-old on a sugar rush!
Castle is a flaky, commitment phobe. I don't care is he's jut trying to make her jealous or he's trying to protective himself because he's so damaged. If you love someone and you are ready for them, you are ready for them. You don't just go back to your old ways just because you are so damaged and scared of getting your heartbroken. That's something that you will just have to risk. I would like to have seen Castle get angry and pull away from Beckett, but I think they could have done without the Blonde and the Ferrari.
I don't think Castle has changed at all or has any commitment phobia. I think what he's doing makes a lot of sense. He's not "getting his heart broken". There is no risk involved because, according to his thinking process, his heart is already broken. He trully believes she doesn't love him, so he's not thinking if he's ready or not, he's just in pain and trying to move on.Then again, not only does he think she doesn't love him, he also thinks she's embarrassed, so this moving on process includes a lot of anger. He thought he knew her, and he was sure they were at least very good friends. Therefore, he feels betrayed, and more importantly, like a fool. His pride is really wounded and now he's trying to make it look like he doesn't love her anymore, like he couldn't care less, like he's VERY happy. Hence the bimbo, the trip to Vegas, the Ferrari.. "I'm gonna move on. And I'm gonna make sure you know how happy I am without you"God, if I had a penny for everyone who's ever done that to their former lovers/friends/enemies, I could probably afford to go on set and find out wtf is going to happen..
I think he is the exact opposite. He's committed to his daughter, to his mother. He was committed to his first great love but she left him. He was committed enough to get married twice. He's been committed to Beckett for years.Lack of commitment is the exact opposite of his problem. He feels he committed to Beckett in a huge way on the swings when he agreed to wait for her to be ready, to heal.His problem is that he thinks she's been stringing him along all this time. That all she wants is friendship and an office clown to lighten her job. That she knows darn well he wants more than that as evidenced in the ILY but is selfishly and knowingly letting him think she might love him in return when she doesn't.In other words, he has made an upfront commitment to her to be there and wait for her to emotional heal. She's committed nothing so far and has no intention of committing anything in the future.No wonder he is pissed.Although the way he is showing that anger is, I feel, totally out of character. He is just not a mean person, Everything we have ever seen shows him to be big hearted, generous to a fault and considerate for the feelings of others. Feelings that he very quickly detects and empathizes with.So I don't buy the jackass act. I think the writers screwed up.Unless he's playing poker with her.....
I think you're wrong there. It's painful for us to watch yes, but i think Castles behaviour is totally in character. You're right- Castle is a big hearted considerate guy. A big cuddly puppy dog. NORMALLY. But you have to remember Kate kicked the puppy dog! And Castle is known for being childish. The snarky comments are because he is HURTING. Come on, if you thought you had a future with someone who you had put on a pedistal, and then you find out you have NO chance with them, you never did, and they betrayed you by lying... well i think Castle is acting totally in character.It's the fact that Beckett only knows the big hearted side of Castle which makes it so hard to watch the way he's acting now- she can't work out what she did wrong to make him act this way!I also think it's reasonable to understand why Kate doesn't know why castle's acting like this. She may be a detective, but Castle knowing her secret, that's got to be top on her list of things she would NEVER want to come out. So to realise he's overheard her and all by MISTAKE - well i would blank it out too. I personally think the answer to Doctor Burke's question "castle told you he loved you, why do you think he's changed now?" is pretty simple "Because i didn't say it back... and he doesn't want to wait around anymore.. he's given up." would be a better response from beckett than what we got in the peak but that's just me. lol. Stana is otherwise very funny in the sneak peek above - love her "he's being jackass!" :)
They are playing poker in a way--I think that's how Andrew Marlowe sees it since he always uses playing card analogies to describe the season finale.Both C&B are bluffing by keeping up appearances and they are simply letting the emotional stakes get higher & higher as they hide their true feelings. Since they are both stubborn characters, they will only reveal their true feelings once the stakes get completely out of hand--which I assume means either Beckett or Castle's life will be in serious danger in the finale.
Yay! Have been waiting to see more of Kate and her therapist. This is going to be a great episode I think.
This fandom is so cool. I mean we already have 175 comments on this page with only a few hours after the sneak peeks were released and the comments aren't some cheap comments, they are actual logical analyses of the character's behaviours. I actually find value in discussing the Caskett relationship, I think we can learn from their mistakes and apply it to our own lives. It's interesting to see everyone's point of view of a character and even more interesting is to see how your view of a character changes because of what someone else had analyzed about him/her.
^^ this :)
I dont like when people calling that girl bimbo because of what? Because she is blonde or because she is flight attendant? Or because she isnt Beckett? We dont know her and perhaps she will be never more mentioned. I dont like when they are using stereotypes, and honestly I never thought that Marlow would go in this direction, calling someone bimbo because she is flight attendant or blonde is just wrong IMO.
Are you a blond stewardess by any chance?
Oh I knew that someone ask about it. NO Im not, and I dont have any in family but few blondes. My point is that Marlow sometimes using these shallow stereotypes but oh well...But from other side what about Hunt guy, he was just using Beckett and no one even mentioned this.
Hunt has been called a blond bimbo a few times.Not as many as Jocinda but some.
Well, the only one to call her bimbo is Beckett, do I really need to say why? Plain jealousy. She's mad, and she takes it on the girl that way. She's not a bimbo cause she's blonde, or a flight attendant. She's a bimbo cause she's a young pretty lady he just met on a flight and a second later he's givin her his ferrari and taking her on 4 dates. Lol, I'd be mad too if that was my man..
Lol, Dr Burke had to refrain from laughing out loud a couple times. Beckett was hilarious on that scene.
Until the three magic words pass Kate's beautiful lips out loud, to herself or to Rick, she will make all of us CRAZY! And to think this is only a TV show...LOL.
Yes! waiting for the finale is fraying my nerves already ...lol
Anybody else think that kate will apologize to Rick at the end of the episode like he did in deep in death?? Something like I don't know why your acting weird, but whatever the reason is I'm sorry. I'm truly sorry Rick. If I did something I promise you whatever it is wasn't to hurt you or piss you off. But I need you to tell me, what did I do? Or maybe she'll apologize in the finale and so will he. Idk. On a side note if the sniper is going to appear in two episodes, how will the freaking season 5 premiere be? I read sniper and that Alexis is giving a speech, I hope it's not what I think it is. But always has to deal with their relationship and give us hope because their is too much meaning not to. I just can't guess the Dang cliffhanger. Any thoughts?
In regards to Rick Castle's behavior:He's recently learned that Kate had lied to him about remembering what happened the day she was shot and he thinks it is because she doesn't love him back and is embarrassed by it. So his behavior1. Is to prove to Kate that she shouldn't be embarrassed. She can be comfortable. He's moved on (even if he really hasn't).2. Is because he's hurt, angry and upset (with flashes of confusion I think). This is making him act out, but keep in mind he doesn't think she loves him, so he couldn't imagine how much this is actually hurtful to Kate. At most he probably thinks he's annoying her a bit.3. He has decided that yes, he still wants to do the work and (I think) yes he still wants to work with Kate, but he doesn't know how to navigate that give his feelings for her, which won't just go away.
Why 7 months? If timeline is real it should be something around 10?