I so much want this episode to be good on caskett front.. please AWM let Kate find the secret behind Rick's behaviour..
Been up all night writing a paper for school. Hope I can stay awake for Castle tonight!!
this episode needs to be great on caskett front.. can't wait for another 2 weeks after this in dismay again for them not being able to talk to and being with each other.. may Kate find out the secret behind Rick's behavior.
Hope they make some movement tonight.Since limey he shows her with the bimbo i don't love you anymore then when he let Kate go with Hunt i am not your partner anymore then he refuses the talk i am not you friend anymore and now she is not his muse anymore.My POV that isnt love and don't tell me he don't know he is hurting her he don't even care about it.Maybe that's Mr.Marlowes Plan to make us don't want them to be together.
here. we. go.
I'm not sure if I will watch Castle tonight. I'll probably watch on hulu tomorrow. I understand that Marlowe needs some roadblocks to hold them over until the finale because they aren't just going to get together in some random episode, but it's still frustrating as hell and it seems like he completely forgot the characters that he's writing. Castle was really in love with Beckett earlier this season, and now, he just goes back to his old ways because he can't handle any complications without even knowing why she kept that from him or how she feels. Not my definition of love. And Beckett is so clueless. Anyways, I hope that they resolve this mess by the finale, so we can start over fresh in season 5, maybe with Castle and Beckett together.
There won't be too much movement in this episode. I think Rick will come to the realization that he is better off with Kate after Slaughter pisses him off some how. It sure looks like Rick gives Slaughter a poke in the nose. Kate will STILL not bring her feelings to the surface even after talking to the doc. (I think he's a shipper, too!)I think her feelings will be told in ANGER in the finale when she fines out Rick's secret. These two can't talk to each other about their feelings unless they are yelling. Hope I'm wrong but I haven't seen any twists in Marlowe's writing.
I do think there will be some kind of resolution in tonight's episode, but I don't there will be any big confrontations until the finale.
Well, we know that Castle and Beckett go back to working together after tonight's episode (thanks to those stills from the zombie episode), so I would imagine that there's some sort of resolution. Whether it fits the fans' expectations is another matter...
You don't know if they actually get back together the Limey stills show them together too and it wasn't so.
Tbf most people are right saying that how he is acting is not really a good definition of the word love, but tbh he its cause hes scared as his conclusion in the episode was that she didnt love him back. Cause he thinks she doesnt love him hes trying to get over her by getting himself a new muse this week and last episode running of with some bimbo but they should have made the transition look harder tbf. If he loved her that much it would still be harder for him to leave/get over her and surely he must know that she was talking bout him on the swings in Episode 1 of this season.
I'm still not buying the hurt and damaged excuse. Yeah, he's hurt and angry, but that doesn't mean he has to go back to his old ways because he can't handle any emotional complications. That shows me that maybe he only loved the idea of Beckett, a smart, sexy cop (well, used to be) and he tried to change, but he couldn't. He could have got hurt and angry...and just took some time away from Beckett. No Blonde bimbo and Ferrari needed.
Also...even if he truly did "love" her, he's still not ready for relationship. Yeah, he could be hurt and angry...and scared to enter a relationship, but you put it all on the line anyways, because you love that person and you would do anything to be with them. He doesn't go back to his little hole because he's so scared of getting hurt. I don't know if they will ever be ready.
same goes for beckett. she just admitted her feelings for castle in the limey and in the end gave up too easily too and called up Hunt to agree to his offer to have drinks together. n I don't buy that.
Thats exactly what i'm saying i unterstand that he is hurtan angry and feel betrayed but you never stop loving somebody that easily it looks like he never was really loving her the Writers let it look like Kate was right all the time don't trust his i love you and that's not a greatLovestory he don't even struggle with his feelings.
Geez, hasn't anyone noticed that ever since "47 Seconds" that the story has shifted completely to KB's point of view. We haven't seen Castle outside the 12th, no idea what he's been doing beyond that, and anything aside from whats been said in the episodes is mere speculation. As a guy I can understand Castle's behavior as of late, doesn't mean he never did love her. The doc is right: he's just protecting himself, eventho his rationalizing is wrong. Its not her fault he didnt have the stones to confront her on her secret. At the same time, its not his fault she couldn't find a backbone to just be straight-up with him from the start. Until they can both figuratively grow a pair, we just have to ride this out.
What about Beckett? Where is her overriding love? Why didn't she admit the truth that she heard him say "I love you," but needed more time. Gimme a break. Why do so many here put all the blame on Castle?
I think that Beckett needed more time to sort out her feelings and she thought that it would be awkward having castle around all the time knowingly waiting for her. She was trying to protect him in her own way and he just didn't understand it. Also, she has never been in a relationship like this before so she doesn't really know how to handle accrual love.
do you think that the part with the psychologist will be in the end of the episode? Could you answer me please? :)
nooo it will probs be earlier on
I think midway
think it'll be at the end of the episode - like it was in the earlier episodes. and beside that it's very difficult to imagine their being together in the next zombi episode. the writers messed up everything - it is not a great Lovestory and has nothing to do with it. i can understand that he is hurt and angry. but he reacts like a boy in the kindergarten who can't get the toy he wants and decides to punish everybody for it. that is not a behavior of a mature man who is really in love. kate was absolutely right not trusting his i love you.
I WANT CASKETT NOW! I'M TIRED TO WAIT! IF IN THE END THERE WILL BE A CLIFFHANGER I GET CRAZY!
I LIKE THE WAY CASTLE IS REACTING, I LIKE SEING BECKETT SUFERING AND I HOPE THEY WON'T BE TOGETHER BEFORE THE 6TH SEASON!!!!PS:for those who read evrything which was written above, it was a joke to see how people were going to react.
Do people remember that he tried to take the bullet for her? I would say that trumps acting like jerk for a little bit after he finds out that she has known he said "I love you" and didn't say anything about it making him think she doesn't love him back. I would say trying to take a bullet for someone is a pretty good sign that the love is true.
I agree. He's been there for her every step of the way almost from the day they met. For people to suggest that he's acting like he doesn't love her strikes me as silly. He's protecting himself now, but if the situation arose again where he had to take a bullet to save her life, he'd do it.
yes! its finally monday. its been too long. I am so excited for tonights episode. I think its gonna be great.....scratch that. it WILL be great because every episode is amazing!
Too many people have been overlooking Kate's role in this whole situation her and Rick are going through. Yes perhaps Rick's probably pushed things a bit far beyond what could be considered to be reasonable taste in the way he's reacted, but I reckon if it was Kate that was going AWOL after discovering a secret like that there would not be anywhere near the same level of anger/hatred being aimed in her direction as there has been in Rick's!I get the feeling that this episode will see Rick slam the brakes on hard and be made to do some serious soul-searching. He is still trying to prove to himself that he can turn off the love switch and move on, but it is clear enough that he is going to fail spectacularly at it and will eventually end up forgiving Kate for lying to him all this time. I don't want to see him just fold and let her back in his life though without standing his ground and letting her know he could've (and would've) helped her get through everything she's going through to be ready for a relationship.In terms of Kate, after her talks with Lanie and Dr. Burke, she will also do some soul-searching I think. Andrew Marlowe did hint at the fact that both characters were going to be put in a position where they had to do do soul-searching. Despite her best intentions to bring down that "wall", she has still been hiding behind it since she told Rick back in Rise on the swing-set that she needed to bring it down before she could have the relationship that she wants. This wall of hers has moulded her into an independent type of person and I guess she thought she could bring it down with only the help of her psychiatrist, while keeping Rick at arm's length and expecting him to just wait for her to be ready. The lesson she will learn from all of this is that she no longer needs to be so independent and she has a man in her life who does still love her (despite his recent antics) and would've done everything in his power to help her get ready for a relationship if she hadn't kept him hanging in limbo all this time.I'm guessing that The Limey was the point of rock bottom in terms of this "thing" Rick and Kate are going through. It looks like Headhunters will see the start of both of them climbing back out of the hole they fell in. Looking forward to seeing how Adam Baldwin goes in this episode. I'm not expecting them to overload us with Firefly references, but they will be in there in a subtle way.
yes, but, i think that he could listen to her when she tried to say to him what she feels! he acted like a stupid in this case! i know that he's angry with her but if there was more conversation between their i think that all this stuff could be resolved long time ago! Sorry for my english i'm italian :)
This is the issue that will ultimately be addressed (and the whole reason for the secrets theme of Season 4), the fact that BOTH Rick and Kate need to learn to be far more communicative with each other if they seriously want to dive into a long-lasting relationship. Rick hasn't confronted Kate because he believes (wrongly) that she will just confirm what he said in 47 Seconds, that she was embarrassed and doesn't reciprocate his feelings. Kate could've also avoided this whole situation by coming clean all those months ago, but didn't because of so much emotional trauma (as well as the physical trauma of being shot) to deal with. Both of them will reach a point where they are on the same page and will vow to be honest with each other from now on. That point in time is not far away methinks.
I don't see the point why every fan here is lashing out on castle only, 1- saying he didn't had guts to confront beckett ( Well neither did Kate confronted him ) ...... 2 - saying castle kept on acting like a jerk and a child ( Well Kate seems to ask lanie and dr.Burke for her every move like a kid too ) ..... 3 - saying castle should have asked her if she really loved him or not ( Well it definitely was Kate herself that asked him not to push her and wait ) ....... 4 - saying castle is jerking around with bimbos ( Well seems like it's good to give up yourself and accompany Colin Hunt for drinks on your first failed attempt , aah !!! love is never easy , it's good Kate gave up so easily too ) ....... 5 - saying he does not live her truly , now Common really if that's what you feel then no one can help you ----- he gave up James bond for her , he contributed and started a scholarship in her mother's name , he spent a million just for her to solve a case , he STILL HADN'T TOLD HER HIS SECRET IF HE DOES HE KNOWS SHE'll BE DEAD , HE TRIED TO JUMP IN THE LINE OF FIRE JUST TO SAVE HER FROM GETTING SHOT ............... this is a nice love story please those who don't wanna be a part of this or doesn't believe in them , then please don't post negative comments here ....
continued : all this though he's the one with a broken heart here not her , she's hurting we know why but castle doesn't ..... his kiddish behaviour is for him to distract his heart, it's not like he's involved with jocinda physically ... What would someone expect from a broken hearted person to do ? go and have your broken heart stomped upon ? It was Kate all along who knew he loved her and knew whatever or whenever she confronts him,his answer would be a yes .... that wasnt a case for castle .. he didn't knew what will her answer will be, he get to find out the truth the hard way ........... It's among the best love storyies of all time on television .... they both just go bam bam boom boom cranck at matters of heart ... It's the best love story on tv
Guys, stop blaming game and argument on who's right and who's wrong. It takes two hands to make a clapping noise! Both Beckett and Castle have their own faults. But until one grows a pair, they will keep playing the guessing game!Anon 11:47pm-- good point on the POV shift from Castle and Beckett. And I totally agree on every counts!
Anon11:47 and anon1:00pm thank you and I agree with everything you guys said. It's both their faults. Their problem is nobody is communicating. It's Rick's fault for not confronting her and not trying to get the whole story. But its kate's fault for not addressing her problems to Rick early on. You can't just take sides. you know what both should do?! TALK. And confess their feelings, that would make things simpler, but then again since when have these two been simple?:) until one talks, there Wont be that much movement. BUT I do think things start to look brighter in this episode. I think the Limey was the really really bad part, and this will start the really, really good part stana referred to. Anon11:47am really good observation about it switching to Kate's POV. I think they are doing this to show that she's going to do something soon, as a result to all that's happening in the past 2 episodes. All in all, I think we will be happy with the end result of caskett in the finale, although it is a cliffhanger so I'm curious.
Here are my thoughts about the final's end:They discover new elements in becket's mother's case because of castle. Which drives kate crazy. But she finally forgives him for keeping this secret from her. At least they have some new informations.At this moment castle says to beckett that it's time for him to leave the precint. He has done all the research he needs. (He is serious and sad because he still loves her but he can't stay. He finally admited earlier to his mother that he suffers too much when he works with her. Beckett is staring at him. We can see that she wants to say something but no word comes from her mouth. Then after a long pause she screams:"CASTLE"He turns back"I wish you would have stay..." He tells her again that he has done enough research.She insists. He is still mad at her so he says:"Why do you want me to stay""Because you are my partner""You'll find another one""Castle...""We both know you don't need me to solve a case. You've got two other great partnners.""It's not what I meant...'"So wha did you mean?" (the tone of his voice rises)She looks at him but doesn't know what to say, at least she doesn't know how to say it. Tired of waiting and still thinking that she doesn't love him back he says"I really need to go now.."He leaves and she finally catches him back, grabes his arm and say:"I would like you to stay Beacause me too""You too what?"She looks at him shyly and says:"Because I love you too"...TADAM cliffangher!!Sorry for that. Like nothing really happens between these two my imagination is working!and sorry for my english, I'm not english at all!Clem
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It's like that most of time...funny!
So of to bed now in the UK and by morning will be able to watch it online. Least I don't have that wait from now till its on lol
Same for me in France...A good sleep and wake up with 4x21 and a good cup of coffee!!!
You pussys, i'm up all night to watch it online live. Kisses from Portugal! (btw i'm not crazy, i just don't have classes tomorrow and think it would be a waste of my night waiting for it :)
After reading the Adam Baldwin interview, I got the impression that his character is going to offer Castle some relationship advice in a 'colorful way'...it seems very possible that Castle might punch him in the nose on purpose!Also there is supposed to be an interrogation scene with Beckett & Slaughter together--I am hoping Beckett gets competitive, and she & Ryan & Esposito try to one-up Slaughter. Even though Castle has been a little insensitive lately, I still want to see Beckett & co. try to rescue him or win him back. And if that doesn't work they could always embarrass Castle until he comes crawling back!
I think this episode will be mostly used as a setup for the big Caskett moment.Beckett will realize what she did wrong.Castle will realize that he wants to continue police work, but that he's not going to find a better partner than Kate. This forces the two of them to work together again and come to an agreement that is unsatisfactory to viewers, a way of starting to heal their wounds. Then...1. Later, comes the Caskett moment, they realize they love each other.And finally, in Marlowe's style, wounds will be ripped open again at the end of the season finale. CLIFFHANGER.OR 2. Marlowe creates the Caskett moment, and just as they realize their love for each other, something tragic happens to both of them at the same time, or just Castle and then CLIFFHANGER.
yeah I'm hoping they'll give us a happy ending for caskett to hold on to this summer, sure a cliffhanger, but something to make us feel happy about them.Have you seen the BTS pics for 4x23? A fire in a suburban neighbourhood and Beckett seems shocked, probably running towards the house ... hmmm, Jim Beckett's house? I hope he doesn't die, too much tragedy for Kate.
BTS Pics? N didnt molly quinn post she was doing some form of stunt the other week so could the fire have anything to do with that? :)
Thanks seema for the website. Anyway does anybody remember the fire chief from rise?? Maybe that's how this case might be connected to joahnna beckett's case. Whatcha guys think? Do you think it's possible? Also I think Jim might be in the house and it collapses. Then we are left 3 months to see if jim is ok, and it would explain If Rick and Kate have to spend the summer apart, since Kate would have to take care of Jim.
That's a really good point! I remember him!! that would be really interesting if they brought him back into the murder.
From what I've heard and seen from Marlowe's statements, I'm guessing that we might actually get a GOOD cliffhanger, like a "so do you want to go back to my place or yours" type of thing, where we know they're going to be together now, but not where it leads.It sounded like Marlowe is looking forward to having their relationship work, then working on regular relationship situations within the show. So instead of their normal banter, they can also banter about not putting the toilet seat down and such (hopefully more creative than that, lol).
Toilet seat, lol. Castle should already be trained to do that having lived with only women his whole life!
Anon, 4:18, totally see where you're headed with this one. :)For my two cents, I think we're going to see two major events unfold in the finale - a previous interview with Tamala Jones talked about two "explosions." Obviously one is an emotional explosion (finally putting stuff on the table) and the other must be a literal one or some kind of high-stakes event that would put lives at risk.The question in my mind is what order these events will take in the finale. The first option is that we could have a tense literal explosion close to the end of the episode, which brings everything sharply into focus for our dynamic duo and forces the emotional explosion (and resulting make-out session, obviously) at the end of the episode. Or the second option.... and unfortunately, if I know Marlowe, this is more likely one - the emotional explosion happens (and resulting make-out session) but then we're cruelly interrupted by the literal explosion and left to speculate all summer about the outcome.Either way, looking forward to it! :)
here are some pictures from the finalehttp://www.examiner.com/castle-in-national/spoilertv-releases-set-photos-from-castle-season-finale-4x23-always
OHEMGEE! These are awesome!!
Ooooo, people running and stuff exploding! Looks interesting!
LMAO Great episode! Badass Beckett!
Ok guys-ideal ending. Castle and Beckett solve a case and it has to deal with becketts moms murder and gather is finnaly solved, or close to solved so beckett can be on a relationship. Then Alexis graduates, and goes to a party that night so castle is sad and calls Beckett because they are happy again. Then she comes over and they sit down drink some wine and Beckett is like, castle I have to ask you something. And castle says what and Beckett asks why did you do it? Why did you work so hard for me, and why are you my partner? It can't just be because of the work because you never do paper work*smile* then castle says I think you know why and Beckett realizes that he heard everything. Then she says maybe but I want u to tell me because I'm not sure. Then he leans in and kisses her gently, then draws away. Because I love you he says, and I always will. Beckett looks shocked and then takes his hand. Rick, she says, I have a lot of walls, but there's one I want to break down for good. Then he raises his eyebrows expectantly based off becketts reaction to his kiss. Then Beckett tells him she loves him too and this time she kisses him, and they end the season with them kissing on the couch, finnaly together! This won't happen I know, but a girl can hope. Other end would be a blizzard rolls in and Beckett has to stay the night after a long talk about their personal stuff and the last scean is the door to castles room turning after alternating shot of both of them in bed obviously thinking about the other, asks it ends with castle smile at becketts face in the door!
Anyone in the US, could you tell me in how many hours Castle will be airing?
Castle will begin airing within the next few minutes in the Central time zone.
SPOILER ... don't read this if you haven't seen the episode, but I wanted to get out my thoughts about it before I forget them.So another filler episode, it was better than The Limey, some really funny elements. Loved how they presented Castle in this episode, it's funny because Castle is a very brave person, I mean he dove to take a bullet for Kate, broke into Kate's apartment when it was on fire, stood in front of a bomb and put it off, but today, he was completely lost. I actually loved this, it's like he can only believe in himself when Beckett is his partner. He's only brave when Beckett is in concern. That's what love does to him. I love how he went to her after for help and Beckett was prepared with case info, having his back, and it was almost like he was hiding behind her when she was talking to Slaughter in that alley. Beckett's toughness is inspiring, but she's tough because of what she's gone through. Castle can be tough too, but not physically tough, it doesn't coincide with his personality.- for Beckett's talk with her therapist >> disappointing, I mean they could at least have her answer the question in the end ... it won't hurt!- Alexis's college acceptances >> Stanford is where Beckett went for her first year, it'd be nice to see an Alexis-Beckett convo next episode about the school. Problem is, it's in California, and right now, Castle feels like he's lost that future he thought he would have with Beckett and now he's to lose Alexis ... this is going to be tough for him.- When Slaughter punched Castle, I really was hoping to see at least some sense of concern from Beckett. At least help him get up. But I think seeing him get punched is what she wanted because she was probably meaning to punch him herself for his behaviour.- they mentioned Finn Roch from the Westies and didn't even tie it to the JB case. I mean at least give us one clue. We haven't even seen Castle actually work on the JB case since Rise, at least show us that he's finding out stuff. I'm gonna hate how they're going to throw everything at us in the finale.- no Caskett development whatsoever ... 2 episodes gone with people talking to Kate, telling her to make a move/talk to Castle and SHE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ... now they're just pushing it, it's getting unrealistic in this perspective.
Thanks @7:02! I seriously can't stand the suspense to watch it without a clue!
Wow. What did we get from that episode? F*cking nothing. Three for Three Castle. Nice! Certainly not worth waiting 2 weeks to watch. There's only so many filler episodes you can have, especially near the end of the season. Guess what I won't be doing 2 Mondays from now.
Hopefully, you won't be commenting on this blog.
No Caskett progression whatsoever! This is getting tiring... I get the feeling the season finale is going to be a random conversation of feelings, not brought up in any of the remaining episodes... very disappointing!
just curious, howcome we hardly ever see Stana and Nathan together in these pics. ( I mean off-screen pics)
Only slightly disappointed that he didn't hit him for Beckett. But love that he did it because of Alexis.
there was no preview! what the hell! ugh
Well, another lame episode with no progress. When will I learn?
No preview sucks. I do not care about the Avengers. And I know there wasn't a lot o forward movement BUT I do think that Kate having his back means something to Castle. I don't think he will be Limey mean to her again. And at least this episode was enjoyable for the Castle/Slaughter laughs.
Suckage. But what can u expect. Now that there have pretty much been 4 seasons of us waiting the show is too much about the will they won't they. If they hook up there'll be nothing left to watch. Just like bones!
Sadly, I agree. I used to love Bones, but I lost interest before they ever got together. The writers lose the chemistry in their efforts to keep the characters apart. I think they lose more viewers dragging out the relationship than just getting them together.
If someone has the link to watch it, please post it. Thank you!!!
So I thought the way Beckett acted was completely believable, she acted exactly how I would have acted. HOWEVER, why do these writers think that they have to wait until the last episode of the season!?? The Castle and Beckett "reveals" could have lasted TEN episodes, there is SO much to their story and they are going to cram it all into the finale. It will never do justice to what they have been through.
I agree. There's only so much you can fit into one episode...and there's Soooooooooooo much they have to talk about.....I have a bad feeling the finale will disappoint too....
Agreed. It's not just about them finally getting together, but it's about HOW they end up getting together. If they blow that, they've blown the whole show.
Ugh I hated that ending!!!! What was that?!?!?!? Ok sure there was that scene with the therapist but no other progress!!!!! Honestly a disappointment....truly. Next episode better be good to make up for that. Was I the only one that noticed that some of the stuff in the previews weren't even in the episode??? Correct me I'm wrong...bury man truly I just didn't like this episode...I mean there were some good parts but none of the actual progress I wanted to see and that I felt Marlowe promised....whatever....I've waited this long. There's only two episodes left anyways..
I can't even with Rick at the moment.Beckett was willing to risk her badge for him without him even asking. As much as they won't talk and Beckett won't say anything, she's Always had his back. Even through him being a complete idiot. Not to mention him STILL being a enormous hypocrite.Don't get me wrong I freakin love this show and I know they'll pull through but at the moment I wanna hang Castle by his ears.
Right? I'm so glad this episode reminded fans that Beckett not only loves Castle, but she would do anything for him, even while he's being a complete and utter idiot. On another note, I like the turn this episode is taking, that maybe Castle will choose to pursue her despite his wounded pride. #growupcastle
Yeah because he has to be her doormat or it wont be right??? The episode was good until the end. Beckett rubs his face in crap after she loies to him.....boy I can't wait for them to get together now...... NOT!!!
Plus, it's not like Castle has ever had Beckett's back even after she was being a total idiot...oh wait...he carried her out of the hangar...in Knockout...after she told him they were OVER. Yeah, what a jerk.
Clear up what "loies" is but apart from that I got the gist of this.Haha who said he had to be her doormat?She rubs his face in crap? Did you watch the episode? He was putting his own face through "crap". She HELPED him.If it wasn't for her he'd still be Slaughters whipping boy. Don't count on Espo and Ryan to help him either they're on mums side and personally so am I and I wasn't this bias till this episode.If that's how you want it dude, don't bother watching Always.
Well done. I like where this episode brought Castle. But the end, we saw that he was still the good dad and the kid who goes for ice cream. And he realized that he had something he wants bad enough that he is willing to confront the hurt rather than just avoid it. Things are getting set up quite nicely.
I agree; well said.
Ok guys give it a break. There is development. Beckett was looking out for him the whole time and I think that's sweet. She's so into him that she work on it behind his back and let him realize how much she cares for him. Oh well... they are always beyond words and I am tired of it...
Idk i kinda liked the episode, i know it had like no caskett scenes but there was a deeper meaning in the episode. Kate had castles back she looked into the case to make sure he was ok, and we also saw the parallel between alexis college letters and what castle is going through. It showed that castle is still hurt by the situation but he ses that beckett dose care about him.That said i dont see how anything is really going to be adressed in the zombie episode, so i am concerned leaving everything for the last episode, like how all of a sudden jb case is going to come up and how castle secret will come out along with a real talked between the two akd also u know alexis story will be put in the final ky guess is somehow shadowing what is going on caskett wise.
I <3 the ending. Looks like Castle has a lot to think about. Thats what I got from his facial expressions when he said "is it something u want to fight for so bad, even if it hurt u." or something like that....:D
I do hope that they do a 90 minuet episode! That would totally help them figure stuff out!
Kate never said "oh no" like in the preview. Or did I miss it? So is the "oh no" scene going to be in next weeks episode? It would make since. Watch she figures it out at the very end and then the episode ends and we wait for the final...where it all goes down.THERE BETTER BE A KISS IN THE FINAL! AT LEAST! LOL!
Great ep until the end. That sucked. A look, a smile. Nothing. That was a step back.
It wasn't a step back. It was a big step FORWARD for Castle. "Do you want it badly enough to get over being hurt?" His wounded pride is finally taking a backseat to logic and reason. That was HUGE...definitely a turning point and an important puzzle piece needed to point Caskett in the right direction. Plus, we had Kate actually dealing with the fear that she waited too long and being challenged to make a move. We didn't get to hear the answer to that question but now we know it's something she's working out in her own mind.
You know what guys who cares if they didn't get to a huge relationship point. The treason we watch the tv is, and though we deny it it's true, for the drama. You all need to chill out and just watch the show. Yea, I'm frustrated too, but I'm not swearing at a tv show... I love it no matter what and this episode acctually made castle consider his way that he was going about things. I wish there had been more depth but it had enough funny moments to keep us going! I do hope though that that gang guy doesn't try to get back at Beckett-we don't need two bad guys trying to kill her! I also hope that they don't end the season with a cliffhanger like castle shot, I hope they do a satisfying one where we know what's going to happen but have to speculate the exact details!
Ok so here's my thoughts...Episode was ok, quite funny...at least some of the angst is gone. At least castle isn't being mean to Beckett. But this is the third episode without any real progression. Kate's therapy session gave us no answers really. I don't get the angle Marlowe is going for, but its starting to seem a little weird. How many more people need to tell Kate to make a move. So am I suppose to think that now Kate thinks castle has moved on? I guess from that scene with dr.burke, that's what it's suppose to mean right. So now she thinks he is not interested anymore, and that's why she feels there is no reason to tell him. Slaughter was crazy throughout. But something's didn't make sense to me. This guy makes a comment about castles daughter, and he still can continue to work and laugh with him. It's like castle doesn't really care. The punch was just reaction, but after that he is all ok and laughing with slaughter. Weird. It has come to a point, wher I think castle and Beckett have waited too long, and I think of and when they do get together, fans are not going to find anything remotely interesting about it. I am glad Beckett wasn't all protective of castle, he doesn't deserve it this point. I liked the way she acted when he got punched...just walking away. That's realistic. I mean he got himself into this, so it's his problem.I guess the finale will be the only one really worth watching. The next one will be just like this one. No progression, nothing. I think Marlowe is a good writer, but I really think he has screwed up this 5 arc storyline. I hear fans annoyance all over...on every blog site. Fans seems pissed that everything will take place in the finale. Which will probably be not worth the 4 year wait, let's face it, it's Marlowe...he isn't Irving us anything juicy and spectacular when it comes to caskett. Everything will bein subtext, maybe the last 5 minutes, then cliffhanger...Personally I think if they deal with feelings head on, directly, it can happen just in the last episode, but with everything being in subtext, it needs to be there in many episodes, so fans know what is going on. Marlowe said all cards on the table...really? He said that last season too...and we're all cards on the table...no? And a year later they still don't know how the other feels...simply put its draggy...very very draggy...and fans are quickly losing patience. I don't know, I have feeling the finale will be just another disappointment, because come season 5, they will be at odds again, or still need time to process everything...if they are to discuss their feelings, then they should act on it. Or else I think Marlowe should just hold off even talking about that. What's the point...talk and talk but nothing ever happens.
so the very little caskett development\talk was dissapointing. At least they are back to working together though,but how long will they go without talking ? I guess till the finale-i doubt undead will have much movement. I thought marlowe saud that both secrets would be out BEFORE the finale but i guess i was wrong. Becketts secret is out but she dosent even know it and of course there is still castles secret..i mean has he forgotten that he to has a huge secret or what....i just hope the finale dosent seem cramed.I understand that not every episode can have caskett development but this close to the end of the season i expected more.There were some good moments though in this episode. Castle was funny working with slaughter and the faces he made me laugh.At least this episode was better than the limey...especially the end scene.Oh and on a good note just think- 3 weeks from now we will get the finale promo! Regardless of my concerns for the finale im still excited...hopefully its worth it....i still have some faith left...its dwindling yet still there !-brittany
This was a really good episode, one of the better ones of the season I think. It was really fun to watch Castle squirm, goof around, and do quite a bit of growing up over the course of the episode. Espo & Ryan got to get involved in the shenanigans in a meaningful & fun way too, which seems like it hasn't happened in a while.My only pet peeve was that they cut away from Beckett's answer to Dr. Burke's question "what do you want to do?", but that's a set up for the finale so it was to be expected. On the whole though, it was a significant episode & a welcome return to form after the somber tone of "The Limey".
Could someone please put up the link to the episode on the putlocker website like the other two episodes of castle because that is the website that works for me and I always rely on u to give me my dose of castle because I have OCD = obsessive castle disorder, coz I love castle to much :) I would love you if you could :D <3- Georgia NZ :)
How can you say there was no progression?!The two were practically fuming at each other mid-episode, Castle was afraid to even speak to Beckett, and Beckett wasn't even trying to bring him back, you couldnt possibly expect some miraculous confession of love when they're so angry with each other!Did anyone hear castle at the end?"I guess the question is, do you want it badly enough, to get over being hurt?"Clearly he is over the huge upset he had when he found out what Beckett had him from him for 7 mos, and now he's ready to make his move!! Beckett seems angry at him in this episode, but by having his back the entire time, and based on her talk with Dr. Burke...THEY'RE BOTH READY NOW.FINALLY!this is it castle fans... the moment we've all been waiting for!I can almost guarantee you that next episode will be a filler or 'recovery' episode for our dynamic duo, and when the finale comes Marlowe is going to unleash all the drama that has unfolded this season and that has driven us all crazy.
I think that was a fantastic episode. First of all, it was hilarious. I mean, it was the first episode in a long while that actually made me LOL. Adam Baldwin was perfect as Slaughter and it was so much fun to see Castle bumbling and scared out of his mind. Second, it was actually NICE to have a break from all the depressing Caskett angst. I see some of the comments above are already tearing this episode apart, saying it was a waste, had no progression for Caskett...only, it wasn't a waste. Hear me out, please, before anyone freaks out on me. The Limey and Headhunters were both transitional episodes. Beckett and Castle both needed those experiences with other partners and without the usual presence of the other to gain some perspective about things. Being separated from Castle has forced Beckett to confront some very important questions she has avoided for far too long. (i.e. "What DO you have (with Castle) exactly? Are you willing to let him pull away? What if I waited too long? What didn't you do, Kate? What do you want to do now?") It's not to say that she's purposely taken Castle for granted, but don't we all do that with those we love the most? Sometimes it's the experience of not having someone around that makes you realize how much you really need him/her in your life and reconsider what you need to do to make sure they stay there. I think that's what the purpose of these two episodes were for Kate.Now, for Castle, I feel like he needed to get some stuff out of his system. Yep, he went all playboy Rick Castle again for a minute there...had some fun with Jacinda the Stewardess...went rogue with Slaughter and almost had his ass handed to him...still, after all that jackass crap he pulled, Beckett was there for him...more than that, she was willing to get herself suspended OR WORSE to bail out his dumb ass. Do you think that fact was lost on him tonight? I mean, I could practically see the lightbulb switch on over his head when he asked Alexis/himself "Do you want it badly enough to get over being hurt?" He's had his time to lick his wounds and sulk in the corner, drowning in his sea of anger and rejection. Now, he's starting to come out of that fog...he's asking himself RATIONAL and MATURE questions, guys. He's realizing that he's gotta put his big boy pants back on and make some moves here.So, did Beckett and Castle kiss and make up in this episode? No, not exactly. Did I expect them to? Nope, not even a little bit. Why? Because I know that no story gets resolved 2 chapters before the end...the good stuff is always saved for the end...what would the author do if his/her story goes to Chapter 23 but by Ch 21 things are getting patched up already? What would those last 2 chapters be about then? Things are clicking again for both of them. The finale is going to be jam packed and just brimming with emotional stuff and angst. Can't you see where this is all leading? At this point, there's no going back to "just partners" for either of them. It's time to poop or get off the pot, as the saying goes. Kate's ready. Rick's ready. They're FINALLY getting to be on the same page. This finale is going to be epic. I hope people frustrated hang in there. Don't walk away just as we're about to reach the climax!!! Anyway, this episode was the turning point, guys. In the words of the wise sage Lanie Parish, "you may not be able to see it, but I do!" ;)
Elena, I really think you're setting yourself up for dissapointment. I doubt by the looks of how slowly things are moving that we even get a kiss. It will be a version of season 3 finale, with some changes. But ultimately nothing major with caskett. I don't feel at all confident that they will even talk. Don't get me wrong, this episode was good, but to leave everything unsettled to the finale...makes me think that nothing rally will even be settled,there's not enough time. My patience has run thin, and I will watch given that there are only two more episodes. But if nothing major happens with castle and Beckett by season end, I've got to cut my losses and move on to another show. Start my fall watching a new series or following something else. Enough with the dragging here.
Thanks for that, Anon 8:28 and Elena! I was beginning to think I was the only one who really liked the episode! I agree with everything you both said. I loved how this episode showed how much that Castle and Beckett need each other. Plain and simple. For this episode, I didn't watch all of the previews and just told myself I was going to enjoy it as it was. I wasn't going to expect things to go exactly how I wanted. How boring this show would be if it did everything I expected and there was no surprising drama. I feel like Castle and Beckett's emotions and reactions are true to life. I can't wait for the next two episodes! And why do I have a feeling that Kate and Castle could totally make out in the finale and STILL people would be complaining about something?
Amen to all of that!! I too think they have reached the point of no return. Bring it on!!!JM
I agree with you Elena. I really enjoyed the episode. Both Castle and Beckett were enlightened in this episode. Beckett risked her own job to help Castle and has his Back even efore he asked for help. Castle's seeing the light is very obvious here. Yay!! can't wait for the finale. :)
Elena, I think you must enjoy watching Castle almost as much as I do... I've yet to be disappointed by an episode ;). I'm loving this epic love story with all the Castle goodness thrown in. #enjoytheride
Thanks Elena! I get so frustrated with all the negativity I avoid the blogs most of the time. I love Castle and I only read spoilers enough to get a gist of what's coming. But I had to get online to write about this episode... So fantastic. First of all I loved Firefly (Dinos and brown coats yippie) and I loved Adam as Slaughter. Castle certainly got the wake up call we've all been waiting for! And I couldn't be more pleased. My favorite line in the whole episode was while he was being a GREAT DAD to Alexis... "do you want it enough to get over being hurt." and the lightbulb comes on and tomorrow... He BEGINS healing what he's done with Beckett. Don't anyone tell me I'm going to be disappointed with episode 22. Seriously!? Beckett and Castle made SO much progress here. After the convo with her therapist it's not like Kate can run to Rick and say "I love you I'm so sorry" because she still doesn't know he heard her. She did everything she reasonably could in this episode to SHOW him how much she loves him. And isn't that how they've always shown their love an what made us fall for them as a couple in the first place? Their first scene in the episode she was so excited to see him. She told Ryan Castle wasn't cheating on them, defending him despite everything. And most of all she bailed him out and risked her badge for him. Guys are dense but I think in that moment with Alexis Rick also realizes how he's been treating Kate and perhaps even acknowledges that she's continued to support him like his PARTNER when he's been a jerk and she's still hurting because she has no idea why. The next step rationally has them having a conversation that Castle tells her what he heard. They're in a place now where they HAVE to talk about it (see season 3 episode 24). So doubters? Quit it. Take a deep breath and get ready because the last two episodes are going to be great. Seriously. I agree with whoever said that if the finale has an amazing for-real kiss people would still be complaining. Get over it and embrace the drama that makes his the best show in tv.
Amen, sista Elena! This was definitely a turning point for Caskett.
TWO SCENES WE DIDNT GET TO SEE, that did show in the promo. Espo and Ryan talking at there desks watching beckett sitting alone at her desk as Espo and Ryan talk about them pulling away from each other. Then beckett just saying "oh no" (u could hear her voice say that in the promo but she never said it in the episode)
Two things:where was the part where Esposito says, "You can tell they're growing apart," to Ryan that I saw in the promo? I was hoping that Ryan and Esposito would actually DO something rather than act oblivious, uncaring and accepting bribes for information. TRAITORS!I wish they would have followed Beckett a bit more in this episode, they just showed her slamming staplers and shuffling through files (apart from the therapist scene) Why can't she show some emotion in the precinct? WHERE IS LANIE WHEN I NEED HER?!
Can y'all believe in 3 WEEKS it's the FINAL?! O . 0
I hate you Andrew Marlowe. I hate you but I love you. You were so right, the audience doesn't know what they want, they only think they know what they want. *Sigh*
Yeah I guess some progression occurred. Castle is now asking himself "Does he want a friendship/partnership with Kate bad enough that he's willing to put aside the pain he's feeling". He can see she cares for him and she'll have his back, so although he may think she doesn't love him, he sees that he's got a good friend in her. So he's asking himself, does he want a position in her life as her friend bad enough even though he's hurting at the idea that he won't have the future he wanted with her. I think his answer is yes. And I think he gets rid of his ill-behaviour for good. We're gonna see the old Castle back next episode. My only problem is knowing how much stuff is supposed to happen in the finale and I don't know how they're gonna put it all into a 42 min episode, especially when you have such a complicated case like the JB case. I feel like this is warning me to not get my hopes up for the finale. I was hoping Caskett would be Ausiello's blind item, now I don't even think we should expect a kiss. The most I'll let myself expect is Kate confessing her feelings to him, that we know will happen. How their confrontation will play out and the outcome of it will probably not be shown til next year. It'll be disappointing ... as usual.I think one of the main reasons why Caskett fans always feel disappointed with this show is because the show allowed us to focus so much on the KC relationship that we forget that this show began as a crime show with a bit of humour. So we get episodes like Headhunters and Undead Again that are supposed to represent perfectly what this show initially intended to be, funny and light-hearted, but we get disappointed because we expect the whole show to be about Caskett only. I confess I started watching it for the murder cases, now I barely pay attention to the case and only focus on the Caskett scenes. I don't know if that's a fault of the writers or not, but I do know the show will fall apart if Caskett falls apart, I mean the cases aren't that interesting anymore anyway and they're not easy to follow.
I agree...as time passes, and I watch these episodes...I'm starting to think the finale isn't all the great. There no way...absolutely no way they can have so much in one episode...cards on the table, that kind of scene take s a while...they will do it in 40 seconds...have caste and Beckett blabber through everything. Very disappointing. A kiss???? Please...wishful thinking. Marlowe will just say be happy that you got a 2 second dream kiss in blue butterfly. I initially thought the finale would be amazing given the 5 epsiode build up they talked about...but three spiders straight and nothing...then next one is also a filler...so all in the finale. What build up to caskett? What build up period? Nothing on the Johanna Beckett case so far...nothing on caskett so far...nothing in secrets coming out so far...and yes I don't count it coming out because she doesn't even know.Bare in mind guys, Marlowe said secrets will be out by season end. He never said they would admit to knowing each others and will confront each other. Yes Marlowe can be quite an ass when it comes to things like this. Fans are assuming that secrets coming out means they will talk. But as we have seen becketts secret is out and she doesn't know, maybe never will. She may find out castles secret. But may also not confront him. I certainly am not expecting much from the finale. It will be same as last seasons.
I completely agree with the fact that I find it harder and harder to pay attention to the crime scenes and mostly rely on Caskett to fulfill my happiness with this show. I think it is 100% the writers fault for making us fall in love with Caskett so much that it hurts! The best think for them to do is have Beckett and Castle get together and then keep them as the witty partners they can be! I know that it IS POSSIBLE to have a relationship and also have an amazing show at the same time. Its just up to AM!!!!
I love that the cases aren't "that easy to follow". It's what makes Castle unique. Sure, we'll get the answer by the end, but unlike other crime shows, we have to think if we want to solve it before then. I appreciate that the writers assume we have brains.
My favorite parts were actually the badass Beckett scenes. Loved the last bit when she walked up to that guy and threatened him. Reminded me of how she spoke to Lockwood in knockout. Stana is amazing doing those scenes. Other than that, very normal episode, but had its funny moments. I like that espo and Ryan won't do things for castle, they will only do it of Beckett say so. I'm pretty sure Beckett isn't going to say anything to castle because she now thinks she has moved on. So everything in the finale is going to be irritating, and rushed. Hate that. We won't get to enjoy their moments becau it will last like 5 seconds then some big cliffhanger...I don't get why Marlowe has to cramp it all in the finale. Those of you wishing for a really good finale because of the hell we are being subjected to now...please don't get your hopes up. I'm expecting another season 3 version, just slightly tweaked her and there...maybe the " talk" will be at the precint or loft as opposed to becketts place. Maybe she will bring up the kiss and his bad attitude instead of him doing this time. Maybe she will storm out of his loft aft seeing the murder board. Maybe she will try and rescue him this time. And say some cliched I love you too, when he is dying. My sarcasm is caused by listening to AM say the same thing over and over again...cards on the table...life changing...rethink what they want in life...take a look at their lives...isn't this all we have heard this season from Marlowe in interviews. Yeah and what did we get??? So I cannot with all this actually believe that we will get a caskett ending. Whatever they do talk about will be conveniently done in subtext, so they skirt the issue the next season. This is what Marlowe does...why would now be different? I'm not trying to make him look stupid or anything, I'm really asking if anyone can actually convince me that things will be different this time.
To be a geek, I have to applaud the keen writing metaphor moment of Nathan passing his brown coat to Adam, basically handing control of the ship/case/episode to Slaughter's lead. Subtle Firefly nod, but I liked it. It would have been complete if Nathan had gotten the coat back at the end. :)
Even though there were no big revelations or "Caskett" moments in this episode, I did find there was progression - I'm finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel. Castle came to realize that his partners at the 12th really do have his best interests at heart - Ryan and Espo came to his rescue, then he finds out that Kate has "had his back" all along too. (Actually, it was Espo who gave her a little push in Castle's direction.) And did you notice the look she gave Castle when she gave him the file with the picture in it? Castle says, "You did this for me?" Watch the way she looks at him - head to toe, with those seductive eyes of hers!! We shouldn't have any doubts that she wants him as badly as he wants her!! Then they went back to solving a case together and it was just the way it used to be - working together, feeding off each other's ideas - perfect! Then at the end, there was Castle's conversation with Alexis. He didn't realize until he got half-way through the line that it not only applied to Alexis' situation, but his too. He says, "The question is, do you want it badly enough ... to get over being hurt?" Castle is realizing that he still loves and wants to be with Kate, so he's ready to go back and try to work things out. Even though there will likely be no resolution till the finale, I'm hoping there will be some kind of progression in the next one. Ever since I heard the title "Undead Again", I kept going back to the conversation Castle had with his mother after he heard Beckett's secret come out. Remember how Castle and Martha went to the memorial for the bomb victims and Martha said she thought it was morbid. Rick's answer was, "Well, it's how I'm feeling." Martha said, "She's not dead." And Rick said, "She might as well be." So, he's been feeling that Kate is dead to him. But I think something will happen in this one (at the end, likely) to make him realize that she isn't dead to him anymore. He's going to get a little glimmer of the fact that she really does love him, which will lead into the big "lay all the cards on the table" moment we're waiting for in the finale. At least, that's what I hope!JM
Slight correction - Beckett had Castle's back BEFORE Espo's 'little push', because she had Ryan run a traffic cam search when he was running the plates (before Ryan & Espo even went to save his life). Otherwise, you have excellent powers of observation, my friend. Nice points.
you know i never knew how hurt castle was actually until this episode..,that one line "I guess the question is, do you want it badly enough, to get over being hurt?" just tells how sad he really is and how much he wants beckett to love him back.I really liked the episode it was fun and i enjoyed it and i'm sure castle knows that he'll always have beckett by his side when he needs her. She was willing to get suspended or worse lose her job for him. I think he needed to see that and now he knows.
I love this Marilyn Monroe quote and think it explains the purpose of The Limey and Headhunters pretty perfectly: Sometimes things fall apart so that better things can fall together. Think about it. What Beckett and Castle have been doing for so long wasn't working anymore, wasn't getting them anywhere...they needed this falling out so that they can start building something even better, something that works.It's happening, guys. Just have a little faith.
Elena I enjoy reading your posts, its insighful and mature thinking. I loved this episode as well. I think it was the most progression we had in two weeks, heck since cops and robbers! I agree, this relationship needed to be torn apart in order to give them fresh life. This holding pattern they have gotten into would really have been hard to break, such as in real life. The are friends, best friends, partners for so long that its possibly somewhat awkward to break that pattern. They were sort of stuck in this friendship zone becuase of misunderstandings, near misses and the obvious inability to move beyond subtext. When Marlowe made the decision that keeping them separated is no longer justifyable he also realized that this coming together needs some serious intervention!!!..... Hence, 47 sec, limey, headhunters....so on. The holding pattern needs to break, and since it needs to break in a 5 ep. It needs to get down and dirty!! First the relationship needed to fall apart, so they can each individually and separately come to the relaization that they cant live without one another, that they would rather have an imperfect relationship together than a perfect one apart! I truly think, undead again has a deeper meaning. Aside frorm the zombies.... Its the relationship that is undead again... Leading to Always. I am not sure what I expect from Always. In the past its when they usually save each other or have the others back..... I am hoping that this Always, will have a fidderent connotation or meaning..... They saved each other, the relationship, the hope and their future!
Wow, Elena, JM, anon 9:25 And 10:08, I just want to agree with everything you guys said and I think I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel too(along with Rick and Kate). Great analogy that both had to be ripped apart to come together. Hard times and tragedies only makes relationships stronger, right? No doubt they are getting there.. Both were left to wonder in this episode what they truly want. I think always is going to be amazing and really good for their relationship. It was said that rick's secret would be the one that changes their relationship. And I think rick's secret will be revealed right after Kate talks to Evelyn. That would truly be the worst time since she has to deal with exposing montgomery's secret to gates, getting fired or suspended, her mom's case again, her sniper, the realization that she could possibly get killed again and on top of that rick's secret and having to explain her secret. Ya but of course they will pull through and I'm sure in season 5 casket will go on some dates!! Side notes: loved espo and Ryan blackmailing him and coming to rescue him, loved frustrated Kate and how she risked getting suspended or FIRED. She truly does love him. Loved Rick playing with dolls and how intimidated he was by slaughter. Loved how Kate had Rick's back and threatened that one guy and also told slaughter do what u need to do, cause that's what I'm going to do. I think rick's ending line about wanting it badly is forshadowing for always. I bet Kate will ask herself the same, do I want it so badly that I can get over the hurt. Of course the answer will be yes. I thought this episode was pretty good. Much better than the Limey and that things are going to get really really good.:)
Yay! Smart, insightful people! It's good to see you guys in the midst of what feels like a "hate on Marlowe" fest. Moving on... We've known for a while that the Caskett relationship was going to get worse before it gets any better, so why are so many fans complaining? Do they not understand the significance of 12.59.... on the Caskett ship happy scale? Apparently not, or we wouldn't have all these whiners. I agree that Castle and Beckett needed to break the holding pattern, and this is the way Marlowe has chosen to do it. I admit that it's a little tough for me to watch them being so much more distant from each other that usual, but we're getting progression, and that's all that matters because it's going to pay off in the end. I think this episode really showed Castle hitting bottom. He ran off and could have easily lost his life on Slaughter's watch. Castle abandoned his friends and the love of his life (whether he'll admit it to himself or not) to follow this guy who ultimately didn't care about him at all. The only good that came out of it was that Castle realized that fighting crime isn't the same without Kate, and he still needs her both as a partner and a friend. He's even willing to try and let go of his anger to be friends with a woman that he believes will never love him back. They still care about each other, and it can only go up from here.
First of all, i agree with Romy, i enjoy reading your posts Elena. It's insighful and refreshing.Especially now that i tend to read more and more of bad comments about the show, since 47 sec. I get the frustation of some viewers but i' really glad to read some positive reviews from people who, just like me, still have faith and understand that this is all leading to something great.I really really enjoyed last night episode. Yes it was lacking of Caskett moments, but that smile she gave him when she gave him the file and how he realized she got his back all along was enough for me. It is maybe a shy move but it's a move anyway. She will never let him get hurt or in trouble, even if she thinks he's moved on. And she was willing to risk her carreer to help him. This may not be a kiss or a confession but hell that's a proof of love.And Castle noticed it. He may not yet realize how deeply she cares about him, but that's a start.At least (last), the storm is over, the angst is gone.I loved Slaughter's character. And very well portrayed by Adam Baldwin. He brought something new to the show and some hilarious scenes. He's not that bad after all and i hope we'll see him again, as a guest.I loved to see castle man up. And i'n not talking about the bar fight. I'm talking about stepping out when Slaughter went to far and doing the right thing. He may not be a badass cop but he stands up for what he beleive in.I loved castle's conversation with Alexis in the end. Very revealing. "do you want it badly enough ... to get over being hurt". Yes he wants it badly enough. He wants to be with Kate, no matter what she feels about him.And she's thinking the same. No matter what happened, she wants to be with him, as a partner, as a friend.They are back on the same page. Now they just have to figure it out themselves and take that final step.I loved how in the end, you realize that, yep slaughter is a badass, but Beckett is even more. A badass in heels ! Nothing compares to that.She risks her carreer for a friend, she threatens a gang boss, she speaks for the dead and manages to look gorgeous the entire time. Now that's called inspiration Writer Boy !!!!It wasn't my favorite episode of the season but i loved it anyway. And i can't wait to see Undead Again and Always.I've been through difficult episodes, just like they've been through difficult times, and I love them that much and i'll keep on watching no matter what. I have faith. Always(But i wouldn't mind a cute casket love scene sometimes soon :)
Seriously what else is there to say. Some people are talking sense! You guys are awesome, just thought I'd drop that into the mix.Stana in that confrontation scene at the end... I was in class and I couldn't even pretend like I was paying attention to anything else.I like AB though to be completely honest I didn't like Slaughter as a whole but I did like parts of the character.LISTEN TO HIM CASTLE!!! STORM THE FREAKIN BEACH.
Some thoughts:With this trial coming up, I keep imagining Beckett giving a statement and Castle running in, screaming, "I object!" to profess his love for her and being shut down by the judge, then either disregards the judge and does it anyway, or awkwardly retreats until the trial is over. Where is captain gates?I thought this episode she would come back. They said she was supposed to have some part in Caskett, so I thought she would approach Castle and say something like, "Either quit acting like a jackass and make up with her already or leave my precinct so she can get on with her life."Also, I miss martha and lanie. I need some inspiration from those two.Does Alexis still work as an intern? I always imagined her job would somehow affect Caskett more, what was the point really? I had hoped that they had placed her in the morgue so she could overhear one of lanie and becketts conversations, not the one where beckett complains about how many women castle has slept with.A few things i'm hoping for after they become a couple:A trip to the hamptons, probably interrupted by a murder.A movie/book premiere (red carpet, black tie events, etc.).Them trying to keep it a secret from everyone even though its painfully obvious they're together.Paparazzi invasion.Return of those people who either suspected they were already together, or those who would have never guessed.Beckett-Martha/Alexis talks.People from Beckett and Castle's pasts we have never met.Castle struggling to come up with the perfect proposal.Alexis freaks out about a possible sibling?
God, i cannot even imagine a pregnant Beckett.
I've read enough fan fiction to imagine a pregnant Beckett- it would be fun to watch that! Season 15 maybe... ;)
Stana's pushing for season 7 :)
WRONG. Not all of us are drinking the kool aid. AM and the writers have made both Beckett and Castle buffoons. 7 months to say: OH I waited too long? 7 months to ask: what do I want? And still no answers or actions. Let him get branch out, get the snot beat out of him. Serves him right...excuse me while I go off for a nooner with the Limey. orWon't tell me you luv me too? OK, bimbo-time! Got to get me a new muse. Too much too handle, crawl back to your "partner". Yeah I feel the contrived luv.
Sheesh...it's a TV show. Getting angry at the writers because they don't do what YOU want them to do to enable you to live out your fantasies is just bizarre. Seems like so many of the people here/females here won't stop whining unless Castle and Beckett jump into bed and profess their undying love for one another.
Completely agree. If all you watch the show for is to see them get in bed together, what are you expecting to get from it after that happens? plus, thats just disturbing.
On a much more shallow note, I think Nathan Fillion looked good in this episode. He seems to be slowly losing some weight. I hope he keeps it up over the summer months. And Castle playing with the dolls was reminiscent of Wash playing with the dinosaurs in Firefly. Loved it.
He's still fat and droppy. Can't believe Mike Trucco is a year OLDER than Nat-han.
You should try the kool-aid. From what I hear, it's pretty tasty!
Lol, Anon 12:08, I see what you did there... ;)
What is all this kool- aid talk? I don't get it!
From Once Upon A Crime. Esposito: Speaking of fairy tales, turns out that our victim really was Red Riding Hood. Beckett: Are you drinking Castle's Kool-aid now?
Guys everything that you speculated might happen, just toss it away. PUT IT IN "NEVER-GONNA-HAPPEN-LAND". People speculated that a case in the Westies would tie to the JB case, people expected Kate would've confronted Castle by now, people expected that when Kate's secret would come out, it would actually come out and not have Kate not know it came out, and now people are expecting a kiss/make-out scene in "Always" because it's called "Always" ... just put your expectations in ...NEVER-GONNA-HAPPEN-LAND
Be honest anon no matter what happens in always, you're not going to be happy.And honestly that's okay.That's a lot of peoples loss and whenever that kiss comes around, I'm going to be laughing and happy dancing and thinking of the doubters. while I enjoy the episode.
Please do not feed the trolls.
Haha!!! Candy is only for good boys and girls huh? Sometimes I enjoy you random Anons you make my day.
I liked the episode. I thought there was a lot of funny moments. I was actually concerned for Castle a couple times so it kept me on the edge of my seat. I liked Espo and Ryan. I liked that Kate had Castle's back. I thought that Castle was pretty nice to Beckett overall considering his feelings so I liked that. I liked Castle with his daughter moments. I felt it was missing a little something to make it a great episode. I have to watch it again, but I think Kate needed try and see if she could get some understanding of what Castle is feeling. She was talking with Dr. Burke and obviously upset and concerned about where her and Castle stand. She knows that he has been acting like a jerk, she thinks she might have done something to upset him, and she doesn't know if he still feels the same and thinks it might be to late but she doesn't even fish for some information out of him. I don't want to put to much into it because I still liked the but I would it makes it seem like she isn't THAT worried about it.
You know what I hate the most? That I don't care any more. Writers always worry about losing their audience once the characters hook up. Surely they lose an equal amount of people like me who just lose interest. I cant even muster any anger. For me the magic is gone. The writers have drug this out until, for me anyway, there is no realistic relationship. For the past four seasons, my hands-down number one show has been Castle, but at this point I don't think even a jumping-in-the-sack finale will bring me back in the fall. I feel like I have lost a best friend, one who just slowly but irrevocably drifted away.
Totally understand. That is a sad day :(
Anon 9.54, completely agree...I don't feel anything. Is that weird? Castle use to get me excited like no other tv show. The magic of caskett was something I just had to watch. But now I just don't feel it, get together, don't get together, have steamy sex...I don't really care. They waited too long, and still in my view they are intending to drag it out...give fans a nugget in the finale, then season 5, will be the same as how hts season started. Somewhere along the line, the show lost me. I didn't even watch tonight's epsiode. Just came here to see what I missed. Apparently nothing much.
Don't watch the episodes and don't care but your on the castle spoilers website reading comments about the show? So if they kiss next episode and everyone is talking about it your not going to watch since you don't care? sorry I just don't but it.
@anon 09:54I totally agree with u! :(
The kool-aid gang thinks its about getting together or not. For me, I'm indifferent but stop making both childish idiots as the road block.
I think we all have to look at this from the writers standpoint: They want to come back for as many seasons as possible, right?They can't have the magic moment at the beginning or middle of the season, because then its just downhill from there. They want to build and build so they can have the most anticipation possible for the season finale to increase the amount of viewers.If Caskett had happened in seasons 1,2, or 3, they would have lasted one or two more seasons as a couple, max. Why do it then when they can draw us into a fourth season before the two seal the deal? Wouldnt they rather reach a sixth season than a fifth season?We assume that the writers main objective is to make the viewers happy, and part of it is. But their main goal is to make it last as long as possible, and the best way to do that is to postpone the most anticipated moment of the show. Because obviously, you will lose more viewers from boredom after that moment rather than leading up to it. The writers dont want to make you angry, their not trying to torture you, they just want to make it last.
Slaughter's one and only important line!Slaughter: "You're tapping that, right?"Castle: "No!"Slaughter: "What the hell is wrong with you!"
important scene, you mean..."A woman like that, you storm the beaches or die tryin'. #Come on!"
I didn't like this episode that much, Baldwin and Fillion were great don't get me wrong but I just can't get to grips with Kate, she had a talk with her therapist and STILL we don't know how she feels about him.She's spoken to Lanie twice - still nothing done and what am I meant to take from her latest therapy session? That she thinks he doesn't love her any more? That he does but he's hiding his emotions? What is she planning on doing? Apparently nothing by the looks of it as usual.And the guy you love gets punched in the stomach and you walk past him saying simply "we're partners" and don't even ask if he's okay or act upset? Who does that? It's just so cold.She doesn't touch him or comfort him or seem that concerned until he crawls back to her and apologises, the only time she even remotely made me believe she had strong feelings for him was when he came back with the coffee. And what am I supposed to think Castle now feels after yet more dull conversation by subtext with Alexis at the end? That he's over her? That's he's accepted that she no longer loves him? That's he's happy to just carry on as they were? That he wants to fight for her? What? Can't these people have one decent conversation or does Marlowe plan to just put everything in the finale?We get all these scenes of her talking to people but nothing EVER happens. And it's just becoming ridiculous. People truly in love don't behave in this way. She never comes forward and stakes her claim to him, what kind of love story is Marlowe writing here because it's not one I can recognize.Ryan and Espo seemed more worried and actively involved in ensuring Castle was okay than she was this epsiode.She seemed quite happy to risk having him get injured and she only got involved once he crawled back to her to apologise - I agree he should have done but I can't buy into their love story anymore because I simply don't see how Kate is in love with this guy, she doesn't show anything like the kind of emotions you should - how can Rick want to love a woman who won't even touch him or acknowledge that she even cares for him out loud?As for this story arc, what the hell is the point of it if nothing happens? Rick found out her secret three episodes ago and we're still no where closer to a resolution, Kate still doesn't have a clue but now both characters are bizarrely just not talking to each other which appears simply a way to stall progression until the finale. The writers have now got to convince me that they can make these two appear to be passionately in love by the time the finale comes around?Kate keeps talking to everyone but doing nothing. She was seemingly happy to take him back under her terms tonight with a cool "we're partners" that had no warmth or love in it at all and yet she hasn't asked any difficult questions of Castle, - like why have you been acting the way you have? Or telling him she's reached a decision and yes she loves him! Guess she doesn't want to hear the answers.If I was Castle I would go out and find a woman that actually gives the appearance of wanting me because I'm having to stretch credibility here that Kate even comes close to desiring him physically, the idea of them having sex in two episodes time fills me with dread, I'm going to have suspend disbelief and then some that this so called couple have the hots for each other.I understand this is not my story but Marlowe's and he can tell it any way he wants but I'm not enjoying it sad to say, I just wish these last three episodes had been paced better and actually move the story along instead of just stalling it.
You have to remember that it's not just Castle or Beckett's fault here- they're both in the wrong. Kate has attempted to reach out to Castle several times since 47 Seconds, but he has consistently kept pulling away from her. She realizes that something is up and has backed off and let him have his space, just like he did for her over the summer. But keep in mind that Kate did get involved in the case before Castle went back to her. She had his back the whole time because she was researching his case when he wasn't aware- Sound familiar? Really these two are perfect for each other, and I agree that it's time for one of them to make a move. I think the ball is in Beckett's court, but for her to feel comfortable confessing her feelings to Castle, he needs to get over the anger he has towards her.
Got to ask this and may be you can help with the time line but when exactly did she start to have his back because really I needed more from her that she just shows him a photo and a file as proof. Why didn't she act instantly when Espo said he though Castle was going to get in trouble? Why didn't she go out with them to track him down? She just said she coulnd't do anything and was going to just leave it until Espo asked again - what if he had got killed after he had left then would she have been upset that she hadn't bothered at that point to really be worried?It seems that she doesn't seem to have to give much out to him to get him to seemingly forgive her - if that's what she's done and I don't really know as nothing seems clear to me now.Sadly these last few episodes have made me believe that Kate doesn't really love Rick, she cares for him as a partner but the love is just not there, if she did she would have been acting much more concerned this episode even if this wasn't her case.Well he seems over his anger now but why do I sense Kate is still not going to do anything about addressing the issue even if he was really nice to her in the next episode?I'm not saying I blame Kate for everything, I don't but she came across badly to me in this episode, - I want to see a woman in LOVE and I just don't see it.Again, just my take on it, obviously others may see the love there - I wish I could.
It's like Anon 11:33 said. Kate has reached out to Rick a few times since 47 seconds, but all he's done since then is reject her. On top of that, he's pulling away emotionally and physically from Kate, and going out with bimbos while he's at it. Kate knows him well enough to see that something is wrong with Castle- she doesn't know what, but she seems to understand that it's at least partially her fault. She knows him well enough that she gets when it's time to take a step back. Again, like how he didn't push her over the summer. Castle let her have her space until she came back to him, and now she is returning the favor. Remember way back to the beginning of this season, Castle and Beckett were discussing Alexis, and Kate told Rick, "Don't hold on too tight, or you'll push her further away." At the time, she was clearly referring to herself, and now she's following her own advice with respect to Castle. Still, Kate kept an eye on him from a distance, knowing that Ryan and Espo were doing the same. She researched his case even when it meant she could lose her job. Even when Castle "cheated" on her with Slaughter, she had his back. She did it because she loves him.
So I hated Slaughter, just as I though I would. Honestly, I couldn't even pay attention to the case because he was such an awful character. I think I hate him more than I hate Sophia Turner. Just wow, what a jackass. Anyway, it was a good episode with some funny moments, but it was weird seeing Castle and Beckett apart and not even working on the same case. Definitely not one of my favorites this season, but it was decent. I loved that Castle punched Slaughter, even though it was in response to Alexis and not Kate, it was still a very satisfying scene. The thing that bothered me the most was actually Kate's therapist scene. It was a good scene, but it felt out of place in this episode. The first 2/3 of the show were mainly Castle and Slaughter with Beckett kind of on the back burner. But then out come this emotional Kate scene. It just felt like they had that scene and needed to find a place to put it, so it went here in Headhunters. It would have been better if Kate had alluded back to her conversation with Dr. Burke during the Caskett moment at the end. She didn't have to come out with her feelings right then and there, but something to show that she's still thinking about it. I found it very interesting when Kate said the "best case scenario" was that she'd get suspended. I sense a bit of foreshadowing here, people! I bet in the finale, Gates finds out about them all covering up Montgomery's part in the JB case, and she suspends them. Overall, good episode, but not one of the best. I can't believe it's another 2 week wait for the next episode! And no promo to tide us over in the meantime. :( I'm looking foreword to Castle and Beckett working together again next episode, and hopefully Castle will be past his anger by then, as the ending suggests he's going to try and forgive Kate.
Yes, I agree with some part of your writing;this was a three part ep.1) a new promo for Firefly...2) a good scene with Dr Burke which is apart of the ep.3) finally a new kind of relationship between the two at the end.Don't know exactly where Marlowe is taking us but I keep on thinking that "Always" is an important title for the season finale and something will happen.....for good...maybe!
I can see many people love this show.. some are complaining that things aren't moving fast enough...understandable... for me if castle and beckett spend another summer apart so be it... but when I started watching the show it was not for caskett.. I liked it because it was fun... Now this season is plain boring.. I don't watch the show for drama.. I have enough of it in my life... Please can we return to fun castle.
I think we'll have some more fun next week with the zombies episode, but after that, it looks like "Always" is shaping up to be a very dramatic finale. I think that Castle does drama very well when it needs to, but you're right- at it's core, Castle is a fun light hearted show. I think that we're not seeing so much of the fun this season is because of the heavy stuff lurking in the background. It's hard to have a lighter episode during this story arc, especially due to the tension between Castle and Beckett. Once that is resolved, Marlowe has promised a more fun season 5, so hang in there until the drama blows over!
what? Watching a rather repulsive Dirty Harry type cop wasn't fun for you?Watching a murder conspiracy that takes 5 years to solve and involve Congress, mayors and secret ex-military snipers not fun? We still have a serial killer out there for your chuckles next year. Now add a PO'd latin gangster to the line up of clowns. yuk yuk yuk
Anon 11:55, I'm not getting your point. Are you being sarcastic or serious? Honestly, I sincerely can't tell.
Anyone else notice that Nikki Heat was doing battle with a somewhat French sounding "Drago" action figure... previewing a scene in Frozen Heat? Or an upcoming Castle episode...?
IDK, but did notice that Nikki was blonde... Tsk, tsk Castle, you better cut it out with this blonde bimbo thing! That includes Barbies! They do make brunette ones, you know.
It shouldn't be Kate, asking if she's "waited too long", it should be Marlowe.
I almost cried laughing when Slaughter was talking about hot Alexis was and Castle punched him. His fighting stance was hilarious.
OMG I can´t understand the people that doesn’t think that this episode was good !!!Watch it again and stop hoping for the kiss or whatever you are looking for and watch and listen and you will see that there are progressing so beautifully.The cross over from Alexis Stanford letter too Castle hurting because he thinks Kate doesn´t love him that’s god writing.No they havened talk about ILY but they are getting there.Ohh they are so in love whit each other I just loved this episode and I am looking forward to see the next one.Ohh and I must not forget ryan and espisitto I just loved them in this one Jane from Denmark
Top 3 Beckett looks of this episode:1) When she looks Castle up and down after he says, "You did this for me?" (hell, yeah, anon 9:25)2) Her complete broken-hearted but hiding it look as she realizes she's losing everything she has with him when Castle comments, "I love this run-and-gun police work!"3) Poker face, "You do what you gotta do, Slaughter. And I'll do the same."Wow is right!Also, how funny is "Real-man-land" vs. "Never-gonna-happen-land"?
I was thinking what would happen in finale that will blow our mind as per Stana's 12.569 rating... AM also said that castle's secret will come out at a wrong time...scenario 1 beckett tells castle how she feels... she finds the murder boardscenario 2 beckett tells castle how she feels...castle gets a call and castle tries to keep beckett from following up a lead.. beckett finds outscenario 3(I hope it does not happen) beckett is in bad place and castle comforts her and then they hookup..then either she finds the murder board or finds a message on his phoneI would not be happy(specifically not 3 please castle dont go bones way). there maybe more likely scenario's please feel free to share.
Not dead, not alive, just zombie-episode.Germany
Episode was not bad. At least the ending wasn't heartbreaking like the Limey was. Adam did a good job, you can really hate him...hahaha...this may sound weird but I think more Beckett and slaoughter interaction would be hilarious. I loved Beckett and valez at the end. She is so bad ass there, loved it. I'm not surprised caskett is still not resolving anything, and it will be the same next episode too. But knowing it doesn't make me feel better about the finale though. I have serious doubts about the finale. Even with its title always, and Stana and Nathan's 12.9 rating, I have to doubt because Marlowe is leading everything to the last minute, and I think that will not do caskett any justice. I mean what kind of conversation will they have when the episode is jammed up with so many things. Will their talk be 1 minute? I an actually glad Beckett didn't overdo the saving him thing. He wanted this, so it was only fair that she let him learn his lesson. Besides I was mad at castle so serves him right, and I think Beckett was so mad at him too, tahts why she didn't go to him, but behind the scenes she was still looking out for him. That's love. If castle still can't see that, and the fact that she basically risked her career for his jackassness, he doesn't deserve her. On another note, Adam is like 50 years...wow, I thought he was younger than Nathan. He looks really good for 50...and espo looked yummy in that black suit with the white shirt.
That episode was a really intelligent move. Writers did a great job.No angst, no fluff, but a smart discreet and subtle way to say "i love you". And it's even more romanticI know this season is all about secrets but for me it's a chess game. Marlowe is slowly putting his pons in place to checkmate us with the finale to come.
Well put. I loved the episode. I feel like we're finally over the hump. The ebb is either over or very close to being over and the flow is about to start. Can't wait to see the next episode!
I just found it odd that she had this talk with her therapist but then promptly did nothing about it, she seems concerned in the therapy room but totally unconcerned for Rick outside it at the start. She was so angry that she just sat back for the first part of the episode appearing to be happy to let Rick possibly get himself killed. Even when Esposito warned her things didn't look good she just casually said that birds have to leave the nest eventually - what was all that about? Talk about cold.Where was her concern for what was happening to him? And at the end when she just let him be doubled up in pain and she doesn't even flinch but just sounds a little bitchy telling him that's what partners are for - sure he's been an ass but she could have at least made sure he was okay. I thought she loved this guy, if someone I loved had just been punched hard and was crouching almost on the floor I would do more than just stand there and then walk off! I lose sympathy for the character when the writers make her like this unfeeling.I just don't see what has been resolved between them, Kate doesn't seem to be working towards anything she's got Rick back under the thumb and she's just seems indifferent to him, he's just like any colleague at work she's close too - not as a man she loves.I'm just disappointed with how they are leading up to this supposed hook up in the finale, they have had all the time in the world to develop their relationship and break the secrets out but by piling it all at the end, you have even less time to fully flesh out the issues between them. If this is Kate in love then I'm glad she's not in love with me because I couldn't survive that level of indifference. She may have had his back in the end but her inaction at the start and apparent lack of concern was inexcusable to me, what if he had been killed or seriously hurt - how would she have felt then? And she wasn't doing anything special for Rick in risking her job, she would have done it for any of the boys there - so it's not as if Rick is even special in that way. That whole thing just felt forced. Marlowe needs to start convincing me these two people are in love because right not Kate is coming off as self absorbed and indifferent to him - I can't see what efforts she is making to move things along, we're just back where we started again except Rick is sad because he figures she doesn't care in that way. I presume he's just now content to just sit around endlessly waiting and pining for her once again - just really sad. Thank God the finale is soon and this whole secret story arc will be over with, it's really dragged the season down I feel.I'm happy for those who liked it and saw something positive for Kate and Rick, I just can't find that much anymore.
For Gods sake people not every episode has to have intense caskett moments.... This was by far my favorite episode of the season... It provided laughs and action that was present in previous seasons but not so much in this one. I hope they make a Slaughter spin off or something. I dont want this episode to be the last we hear of Detective Ethan Slaughter
Love this show! Loving this season! I have loved every minute since the show went on the air. I don't usually post - sometimes read others comments. All I have to say is the writers must be doing something right. Even those who hate it, come here to write short novels on how much they hate it and will never watch again. I have a feeling those are empty threats! �� I think what makes me tune in every week, besides the great writing, is an amazing ensemble cast. Whether or not Castle & Beckett are a couple, at the end of each episode I can look back and find favorite scenes between all the characters - they are all so great!
I could have not explain it better! And I also think all these "I'll stop watching this show" threats are empty. Because the writing is so great, you're always curious about what's gonna happen next. Although the last couple of episodes were sometimes painful to watch, with the Caskett dynamics issues, I can't wait to see the next episodes. I used to think "Yeah, I'm a fan of Castle but no big deal, just the regular thing" and then, a few weeks ago, I found myself always more impatient about it. So, I guess the writers did very well their job on this season.
Really enjoyed last night episode. Wish some would just relax on this couple thing and take it as it comes. It's not a soap opera!
Is it me or that was subtext in crime scene when they building theory?B:Why hide when you can escape?C:Because I wasnt just hiding. I was waiting.
Yeah, I've just seen it nad I got that too. There were a few situations here and there. Like the fact that Castle was thinking of killing Nikki Heat at the beginning, or when he hid the letters from Alexis in case they were bad news. I like when they do that.Anon. from Spain.
All shows do the same thing. Drag it out as long as they can and then some more.Finale even the die hard fans throw there hands in the air and give up. I juat about reached that point. I loved this show. Sorry this season didnt do it for me.Yea yea I know if i dont agree with you i should get the hell out of here. I will do just that .
I believe that this episode provided some good comic relief. I also believe that though there may not have been the Caskett progression some wanted, the episode was not completely void of progression. That scene with Beckett at therapy...that's big. And how she had Castle's back even after he totally dumped her...also. Not to mention that she risked her job to help him.And then of course there was Castle's big aha moment there at the end. He needed time for heal...to sulk a bit because he was hurt...but now it seems like he's prepared to make a move. A big one. True Castle fans...and I'm talking fans of the show itself not only Caskett shippers....will see these things and will be happy. For those of you in doubt....please hold.on until the end. And for those you bashing AM and the writers because they're not playing out your fantasies...make up your own show and leave ours alone!!!!!
So the fandom is being divided into two groups:1) Optimistic fans about Caskett >> believe in the progression of Caskett and have hope that they will happen in the finale2) Skeptical fans >> like the saying goes "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame one me" ... so what's being fooled a third time make someone?I am on the fence between the two groups at the moment, but find myself slowly leaning towards group 2.
Yeah I've been fooled more times than I can count on this show...hahaha...maybe it's time to move on. Im always torn with watching it or not. I didn't watch this one, but came here to read about it. I was in group one until the two parter, then I was slowly moving to group 2...Limey sealed me in group 2. I think slaughter should have his own show and maybes will watch that. Come to think of it, slaughter and Beckett were funny. Such opposites. Interesting duo. I'm looking forward to the end of the season. Just so we can move past all this and hopefully a better season 5. I don't think much will happen in the finale, if by some miracle it does, rest assured it will be torn up in season 5 premier, just so they can string fans along more.
Sorry meant to say I watched this one, but still came here to read about others comments.
When have we ever been "fooled?" When has AWM made us think, "Oh, this is it!" only to have nothing happen? I don't get those of you who feel you've been duped by this show. I really would like to understand. Can you give some examples, maybe?
I think this episode proof for 99% that they will not be together soon. I think Kate gave up on Castle, she has problems to admit feelings to himself, and what was that: "I wasnt ready to hear that then"? If so, whole season 3 need to rethink, especially her questions, "And what about Rick?", "Why keep coming back Rick?" Why she asked him when she didnt want to know the answers?
If Beckett has given up on Castle, why bother talking to Dr. Burke and trying to figure out what to do next? If she has given up on him, why would she have risked her career for him? You don't do that for someone you don't believe in or have given up on. She has admitted her feelings to herself. She was just talking to Burke about her fear that he's "moved on" and isn't in the same place that she is anymore. She hasn't come out and said "I love him" but she's done denying it. I mean, when Lanie pointed out that Kate is crazy about Rick and said, "Oh what? Was that supposed to be some big secret?" Kate initially says yes (bc she's being defensive) but then admits it's not a secret...after that she asks if Lanie thinks Castle knows how she feels about him. This is anything but a denial of her feelings. Like I said, she hasn't said that she loves him aloud YET but would't you rather the first time she has the strength and courage to say those words be when she's saying them to Castle? I know that's what I want to see...and I really think we're gonna get that in the season finale.The truth is Kate wasn't ready to hear Castle tell her he loves her last season. Did a part of her *want* to hear it? Sure...but it wouldn't have gone the way we all want it to go...she would've freaked out and headed for the hills. It would have wound up being a setback for them bc she would've pushed him as far away as possible. Now, though, she's ready to deal with the truth. She's loved him for quite some time but she's finally at a place where she can admit it to herself, to others, and yes, to Castle. There won't be any running away at this point. There's only going forward together.
Hey Guys.Basically I just came over a new entry on richardcastle.net wich really had me grinning because it`s so breaking the fourth wall considering the current circumstances and it also again strengthen my belief that Andrew Marlow WON`T LET US DOWN. And considering that they actually put such a comment on the Website is that they know how some fans freak out (and some got it that AWM et.al. will satisfy us at the end of the season (but prbly still freak out from time to time ;P).Here the link: http://www.richardcastle.net/news/the-key-to-good-writingAbout the episode: I LOVED IT. It was really great. I`m not gonna do a thorough analysis because Elena and Co. already pretty much said it all (great comments you guys. Always very thought through and uplifting :D). But I just loved it. It was funny, thrilling and just hilarious (Nathan Fillion and Adambaldwin back together on screen. Just AWESOME) and it strengthen (sorry I just don`t know how to write that word right. English isn`t my first language) the Caskett relationship again is now stronger than ever before and I`m really looking forward to the last two episodes (which again we have to wait for two weeks. Gah. It`s just frustrating). From time to time a bit anxiously because I`m asking myself, like some other people how they are going to bring all that stuff in just two episodes (most of it just in one - the finale). But Marlowe et. al. never disappointed me before so I KEEP CALM AND TRUST IN MARLOWE ;P.
Thank you SO MUCH for posting that link. I just went over and read the entry and just loved it. I'm a teacher and one of the subjects I teach is writing. I just had a lesson yesterday about writing a strong climax that gives the audience the satisfying payoff they've been waiting for as they've been reading. One of the points I made to my students is that the kiss of death for any story is focusing all your energy on the build-up (or rising action) and then having a flat climax that leaves the audience feeling less that sated. Yes, the rising action has to be strong and leave the breadcrumbs that lead the audience down a certain path BUT, let's be real, we're all in it for the big moment, the climax. Now, I think AWM and his team of writers (remember that while AWM oversees each ep he doesn't write them all personally) have done a fabulous job of leading us up this mountain toward the peak. Sure, every episode hasn't been chock full of hot Casketty moments...yes, there's been a lot of subtleties and subtext along the way...no, things haven't been resolved within an episode or two. It can frustrating as hell and make us want to scream and cry and choke someone...but, like it or not, that's how the drama genre often goes. GOOD writing, writing that makes you think and ponder and theorize and wonder, rarely goes hand in hand with instant gratification. Rather, the payoff in the end is what makes all the longing and heartbreak and aggravation worth the journey. This is something I've learned as a voracious reader, a writer myself, and as a writing teacher, too.I'm definitely wondering just how the hell are AWM and Co gonna take care of all these loose ends in the 42 minute span of the season finale. (We may get some stuff out in the open in Undead Again but the penultimate episode of the season is typically a lighthearted one.) So, though I have some ideas and theories (bc, as Mr. Castle says, good writing makes your mind race with all sorts of possibilities), I'm just excited to see how this all turns out. I'm also quite confident that whatever I have imagined is nothing near as special and fantastic as what Mr. Marlowe has in store for us come "Always." In an earlier post I left, someone replied and said they think I'm setting myself up for disappointment with the finale. That may be so, but I don't think things will turn out that way for me. I have faith in AWM and his plan. I think he's known where this story's going for awhile now and has taken careful steps to take us there along with Beckett and Castle. He will not let us down. I may not be sure of anything else that's going to happen, but I'm sure of that at least.I want you all the read this quote that AWM tweeted after The Limey. I think it's his way of sending us all a message of comfort:http://coolquotescollection.com/6128/it-s-like-in-the-great-stories-mr-frodo-the-ones-that-really-mattered-full-of
Thanks for your warm reply to my comment Elena. I really love your comments ( I`ve already mentioned that but I`m saying it again :D).I have to say that I was quite amused by some fans reactions the last couple of episodes because although I`m not a teacher I`m a sucker for good stories, have been reading and watching them all my life now and even invent some myself all the time (although most of them are just in my head. It`s kind of a hobby of mine ;P) but I know how important build up is and that you shouldn`t overdo it otherwise the climax will be less satisfying. In the end it`s like this: You have to be really frustrated to enjoy the resolvement thorougly in the end. Or lets put it this way: Food always tastes better when you`re starving. Only when you were really craving something before, actually hurt because you wanted, NEEDED it so badly you actually can appreciate and enjoy it as much as possible.And one of the things I really love about Castle is the whole subtext. I`ve never experienced a movie or TV show and only very few books that had me thinking that much about Subtext and I LOVE IT. And all the subtext leads me to the conclusion that were not just gonna love the finale but fall in love with Castle all over again. Hard.And thanks for the link to the quote. I`ve already read it when AWM posted it but it was nice to read it again. And such posts by AWM show that he really cares about his fans and their opinions. He even said so in an article in TVGuide recently (you can find it on castle-fans.org, they just recently posted it). So again all you guys who still doubt: KEEP CALM AND TRUST IN MARLOWE ;P.And all you guys who already do trust in Marlowe try to keep calm because if you`re feeling anything like me you`re probably starting to hyperventilate when you realize that in three weeks we will all be dead because then we`ve all seen the finale and are definitely going to fill up the morgues of our respective cities/towns/villages because we`ve all finally died from our OCD ;P.xx caskettwriter (thought I give myself an alias, because this anonymous stuff really can be confusing).
What I got from the episode: Stana can do intimidating voice very well, all the while sounding sexy. Lol mark my words, we will see that Latino gang boss again in the finale regarding Joanna Beckett case. Remember "Westies"? And beckett's warning to the guy reminds me of the scene where she visit Hal Lockwood in prison and intimidates him. Yeah. I think this is foreshadowing...
donno if this has already been posted couldnt see it so not to sure but here are some set photos from the final episode 'Always'http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/04/castle-episode-423-always-season-finale.html
I'm feeling really good vibes after this episode, for me th is.showed just h much Kate really for for rick, she always had his back and risked her job to help him. In the epidose we also saw kate come to terms wotj the fact that she does love him.Also when watching his epispde it made me think that the whole alexis college stort line was realy wel done, having her been rejected at first by the school and now accepted, goes perfectly with the kate rick storyline.What im really wishong to see is casltes secret coming out, o.know kate will proh be mad at first but.i hope we see her seeing the irony in the situation. Kate stopped looking onto her mohers case.tp move on woth her life and be emotionaly reaey for castle, meanwhile rick os keeping her away from the.case in order to protect her bche loves her and cant see her almost doe again.If u realy think about the story between these two is great the each have.so lich love for each oher but situations in which they are both trying to protect each other is whats keeping them away
Sry there are a lot of spellong mistakes i wrote this on my phome on the way to class :)
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wow didn't thought that this episode would be this awesome. It's a phase when Beckett is more than just a muse for Castle! She still got Castle's back even though he's 'cheating' on her. I love how Beckett is so TOUGH in the end of this episode! Tough, full of charisma but still HOT.
Well, this deleted my whole post, so now i'm going to try to summarize quickly what I spent a half hour composing:First, the link from Anon 7:23 is great, check it out before you read any further. Second, I think that people are so worked up that they are missing the whole point of the journey. This is a great fandom and everyone is so passionate about every aspect of this show (which is why I enjoy this site). But think about it: if the writing had really become that awful and the tension had really fizzled, would anyone still be around to care enough to post on here how bad it is and how they are "never!" going to watch again?? If nothing else, I think that is actually a testament to Marlowe and Co's great writing skills. If you are able to write stories that get your fan base so worked up with tension, anger, and frustration that they threaten on websites to quit watching DAILY.....I think you're doing a pretty darn good job :) They have our attention, anyway :) (For those who think i'm nuts, if you really were done with this, would you be reading my post in the first place? See: fan base for the X-Files seasons 6-9. I lived through that entire series, and now 5 years of Bones, if you want to talk about writing and tension going to hell, that is the dictionary definition.)They are in the process of telling an epic love story. I for one don't think it could get a whole lot more epic than this :)